Is Gears of War designed to destroy Xbox360s?

We all know how the Xbox360 was built with extreme amounts of incompetence, but up until I played Gears of War my console only crashed rarely due to it' s pathetic build quality. But when I play Gears of War, the thing freezes probably every 10 to 15 minutes or so. Are the programmers of Gears of War just super incompetent, or can the Xbox360 just not handle this game?

The system doesn' t get any hotter than it normally does when it plays, say, Dead Rising. It' s just as well ventilated as it always has been. Obviously the system is not built to handle games like Gears of War so it keeps freezing. I keep reading posts by other people how their Xbox360' s died while playing Gears of War.

I hope the PS3 is built better than this piece of crap. And the 360 IS a piece of crap. Either that or the programmers of Gears of War are super incompetent. Someone really needs a kick in the nuts over this issue. Maybe I will e-mail the Gears of War guy Billy G or whatever his lame-ass name is.

The 360 itself is as you say a peice of shit. As I mentioned before, the factories in which they are built were not prepared for RoHS which was enforced late in the planing stages, because of this each 360 has a very short shelf life as the employees working in the factories were properly prepared for the limitiations enforced due to RoHS. The thing is, Nintendo and Sony have adjusted to RoSH years ago when it was first introduced but MS had to outsource manufacturing and they unknowingly chose factories that were behind the change.

I keep thinking their problems will go away once they use the 65nm proccess for the Xenos. Which was supposed to happen early 2007 but I' ve heard they pushed it back to mid 2007.

So far my second 360 is holding up ok aside from the disc tray jamming and not opening and the 360 simply not turning on at all (no red lights). Piece of shit. If the 360 had the build quality of the PS3 or Wii it would be perfect.

The game frozze on me once or twice. But it didnt break the 360.

What do you think of the game Joe? or have you got far enough to play it much?

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

They do have a serious problem with the console, and in denmark with the exchange of a new or refurbished console, since UPS havent even picked up my unit yet!

Im seriously pissed, well i bought Zelda for my gamecube, atleast the console is sturdy!

This link will solve most of your problems however, you' ll most likely have to reinstall the updates.

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/11131/Xbox-360-Cache-Clear-Code-Revealed/

How long had you guys been playing when the console froze?

I like the game and am thankful that is saves a lot so I don' t get set back very far when I have to reset.

George, will this erase any of my game saves or the like?

Your saves and downloaded content will remain, it just clears the consoles cache. Any updates for games however will have to be re-downloaded but since they do it automatically it' s not a big deal.

thats so funny, im one of the few users here at kikizo who its not in love whit its 360 and my console works better than many of yours, it works quite well in fact, it only has problems with EA games and Deade Rising but besides that it works good.

Um, my 360 has only froze once on me when I was playing Oblivion earlier in the year 2006. Since then it has never crashed... Maybe its the " cor" factor?

...Random Madness, Forward...

My 1st 360 died, my 2nd froze on me many times with oblivion, I' ve had it freeze with practically every game at least 3-4 times though.

It' s funny how backwards Microsoft is going, I' ve been playing PC games alot lately and I never even worry about freezes or stupid shit like that, it used to be in the past that PC games were buggy and gave errors and froze all the time, now PC games play perfectly and the X360 trash cant even play a game without freezing and/or killing itself.

I can open up a game on my PC, get up and go on vacation for 2 weeks, come back, and the game is still up and running - I' ve done this. Xbox360 - I play 5 minutes and it crashes, what a piece of shit.

I think it might be because the CPU shares memory with the GPU..
So if you get to many enemies on your screen it will crash. :(
I' ve never played GeOW, and I don' t got X360, but I' ve been told on the internet that it' s the perfect game on the perfect console. :-/
So that means it' s not Microsoft faults for building the console in strange ways, it' s not Epics fault for programming bad.
That leaves the blame to fall on yourself, since you do not kill enemies quick enough. When there is coming new enemies walking into your TV, the GPU is stealing the memory the CPU were supposed to use, thus crashing your game.. :-/

nah.. I don' t know, really.. Just been pondering abit on that shared memory-feature on 360. :P

It' s got nothing to do with shared memory. If anything, the memory allocation on 360 is actually quite flexible and efficient.

I' d say many of the cases would be overheating problems that, over time, lead to permanent hardware damage. All consoles are made of cheap ass hardware that' s supplied by the lowest bidder and chipsets are manufactured at yield limits to respond to demand. So when the hardware is pushed really hard, it dies. This is one of the reasons why I prefer PC gaming to console gaming: the quality of hardware is miles ahead.

While the 65nm process for the CPU that will be introduced in mid 07 will reduce problems, I think most of the high temps would be coming from the GPU. ATI chipsets have always run very hot and the Xenos is pretty advanced stuff. So I wonder if they' re going to address that too?

Got a launch 360 and haven' t had a single problem ever.

This is one of the reasons why I prefer PC gaming to console gaming: the quality of hardware is miles ahead.

Yes and so is the price and effort to keep it at that quality

That argument is no longer as relevant as it used to be. To get the most out of a console these days, you need to fork out thousands on an HDTV. You' ll pay roughly the same for a complete PC as you will a complete console system with HDTV.

A little PC knowhow is all that' s needed to keep things running well. If my mother can do it, anyone can.

To get the most out of a console these days, you need to fork out thousands on an HDTV.

I think you can assume that people who buy consoles already has TV' s.
I mean, you don' t go buy a new PC screen everytime you upgrade your PC do you?
And a nice 32" PC screen costs a lot too, just as a new TV does. So I don' t get your argument there.
PC' s need screens, consoles need TV' s. Same shit.

A little PC knowhow is all that' s needed to keep things running well. If my mother can do it, anyone can.

I don' t know what " a little PC knowhow" is to you but keeping your PC at the top practically forces you to keep up with hardware news and you have to learn how to upgrade in a safe way etc. That takes a lot of time, I mean, simply getting the latest news on what to buy takes an awful lot of time.
Then you have to install the games, tweak the settings, download patches and upgrades, etc.

Oh and PC' s have practically no good games compared to consoles [:' (]

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I think you can assume that people who buy consoles already has TV' s.
I mean, you don' t go buy a new PC screen everytime you upgrade your PC do you?
And a nice 32" PC screen costs a lot too, just as a new TV does. So I don' t get your argument there.
PC' s need screens, consoles need TV' s. Same shit.

I stated that to get the most out of a console these days you need a HDTV. Of course people will have a TV, most likely a standard 4:3 CRT that' s 5+ years old. But if I wanted to get the most out of my 360 or go for that true " High Def" experience of a PS3, I' d have to currently fork out a few thousand for a HDTV.

For a PC, I' d only have to fork out a couple of hundred to get the same/greater resolution screen. Granted, the screen is smaller, but a 32" LCD is generally too big, not realistic for PC uses and can give motion sickness due to it taking up your peripheral vision. Response times on those types of monitors are usually extremely poor as well.

When I do a PC upgrade, the cost is usually negligible (less than $100 - roughly the same price as a game). I don' t usually bother when it' s any higher. Whenever I do a true big " upgrade" of a PC every 3 years or so, I just buy a new PC and keep the old one as a second. So I guess I could say yes, I do buy a new PC screen everytime I do a major " upgrade" .

I' m not trying to argue that PC gaming is somehow cheaper than console gaming - it' s not. But if I were to currently Buy a PS3 + decent HDTV, it' d cost the same as me buying a whole new high end PC system. I' m sure it' s the same for a lot of people. The cost difference between console gaming and PC gaming is no longer as significant as it used to be.

I don' t know what " a little PC knowhow" is to you but keeping your PC at the top practically forces you to keep up with hardware news and you have to learn how to upgrade in a safe way etc. That takes a lot of time, I mean, simply getting the latest news on what to buy takes an awful lot of time.
Then you have to install the games, tweak the settings, download patches and upgrades, etc.

If you bought a PC that was specifically made for gaming, you shouldn' t need to upgrade it for at least 2-3 years. My PC is heading into its 3rd year and I' m running pretty much all games on high detail (6800GT, Athlon 64 3000+, 1.5GB RAM). Haven' t needed to upgrade anything except for a new HDD because I was running out of room (Damn you Lost series).

Software maintenance is no longer as complicated as it used to be. Most of the time you don' t " have" to update to the latest drivers/patches/upgrades. If it' s working fine, leave it alone (unless you want to update it). When you are experiencing problems, a visit to the manufacturer website can have the whole thing resolved in minutes.

I think many people still have a stigma when it comes to PC' s. They think it' s still like the bad old days of Windows 98. XP is pretty solid and no doubt Vista will make significant improvements to usability and maintenance. It' s not as bad as it once was.

Oh and PC' s have practically no good games compared to consoles [:' (]

You' re obviously not looking.

Your assuming the HDTV is for the sole use of the Console in question, while in fact, Many people already have hdtv' s without a super next gen console. [or current gen, damn terminology]

But i have upgraded my pc, from an mesily fx5200 and 512ram to 6600gt and 1.5gb for under 130euros. This allows me to play most next gen games [unless they are coded arse way up or are ports [eg Graw] I can play oblivion, and like everybody else in the planet I do get slow down, but thats because the game is not optimized, I really wish they would realise a optimization patch.

Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

if I were to currently Buy a PS3 + decent HDTV, it' d cost the same as me buying a whole new high end PC system.

-60 gig PS3
-" Real" 1080p HDTV
-1080p tested HDMI

$1300-$1900

Or, on the opposite price end of the spectrum:

-Premium 360
-21inch UXGA (1600x1200) CRT
-360 VGA Cable

$525

Did I mention that the 21inch UXGA tube monitor has a marginally higher resolution than the best HDTV on the market???

You can get a PC that destroys an X360 for under $1000, and it does more than just play games, it does thousands, if not millions of more things, so stfu, it' s asinine to even suggest that a console can come close to the greatness of a PC.

And btw you need HDTVs for PC too, unless you' re a loser that likes to play on 20" monitors. I have mine hooked up to a 37" HDTV in my room.

Iv never had problems out of my 360 with gears, maybe im just lucky

-60 gig PS3
-" Real" 1080p HDTV
-1080p tested HDMI

$1300-$1900

Or, on the opposite price end of the spectrum:

-Premium 360
-21inch UXGA (1600x1200) CRT
-360 VGA Cable

$525

Did I mention that the 21inch UXGA tube monitor has a marginally higher resolution than the best HDTV on the market???

If you absolutely MUST take advantage of the maximum standards on your PS3 home entertainment system (i.e. 1080P), I' m sure you would prefer the same on your 360.. :)

Then it gets more like this:

525$ Your price:
+ 300$ - 6 year Live subscription
+ 120$ - Wifi+Wireless controllerpack
+ 200$ - HD-DVD Drive
(oops.. now you too need HDMI-cable and better TV to take advantage of HD-DVD' s max resolution, that means + (1900$-600$=1200$, then we take away the 300$ your VGA-cable and TV-set for 360=900$))

1325-1925$ <= for your 360 with your prices..
And the PS3 owners still got plenty features, like SACD, Linux, and 40GB more then 360.. :P

The PS3 isn' t more expensive than 360, it just does more. :)

The PS3 isn' t more expensive than 360, it just does more. :)

yeah, except play good games.

And its made of better quality material, unlike the trash x360s are made of.

Like the saying goes; you get what you pay for.

you get what you pay for.

Yeah, with the PS3 you get a supercomputer. But a great gaming console? No! You need good games for that.

You guys are only imagien things,first it was GRAW killed my 360 now its GoW.

I have no extra heat coming from my 360 when playing either.

Btw got my new comp with a freaking 27 inch LG HDTV and a fucking intel conre 6800 fu noobs.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

Btw got my new comp with a freaking 27 inch LG HDTV and a fucking intel conre 6800 fu noobs.

Did you get any extra brain cells with it? You seem to need that more than anything...

Just stfu fag.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

yeah, except play good games.

What gave you that idea?

Infact, I' m pretty sure that Sony studios is the ones who will show the most improvement in games, this generation.
They' ve been stuck on much weaker hardware than their competitors, for a while, and allways kept on delivering alot of quality titles, I' m pretty sure they will continue doing that. Alot of people underestimate the skill located in various SCEE, SCEA, SCEJ and their partners.
I' m pretty sure that you will continue to see some interesting new IP' s from them, as well as the old belowed ones. :)

ORIGINAL: KongRudi

They' ve been stuck on much weaker hardware than their competitors, for a while

and still are.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

I agree, but it has nothing to do with the power of the PS2 and how they where stuck whit it, its because the size of SCE Worldwide Studios, they are huge and alot bigger than say MS games Studios and NINTENDO developing group, its all about money this gen, whit the PS3 it all comes down to the amount of money u can invest since u havo to make several programs in a single game, as simple as that.

Hey Knong Rudi and evil man, have u played GTHD yet???, what kind of TV do u guys have???

ORIGINAL: KongRudi

yeah, except play good games.

What gave you that idea?

Infact, I' m pretty sure that Sony studios is the ones who will show the most improvement in games, this generation.
They' ve been stuck on much weaker hardware than their competitors, for a while, and allways kept on delivering alot of quality titles, I' m pretty sure they will continue doing that. Alot of people underestimate the skill located in various SCEE, SCEA, SCEJ and their partners.
I' m pretty sure that you will continue to see some interesting new IP' s from them, as well as the old belowed ones. :)

I' m also sure they' ll make some truly awesome games, maybe even the best this new generation. But that won' t happen for a while. As I see it, the PS3 is nothing but future potential. Today I see nothing interesting in the PS3 so that' s why you' re not getting a great gaming console if you buy it in 2006 or 2007.
2008 on the other hand could be the big year for Sony.

Hasnt SCE only made two good games? ICO and SotC?

Now sequals to those would be great and nearly warrant a purchase of PS3, provided i get some money i didnt count on in March i might get it, just to play those kinda games when released!

Wow Quez you got a 6800, how long did you have to wait for that machine?

You should have a 7600 with 512Mb running on an AM2 with 2Gb of ram, with a 300Gb HDD and 160Gb external, price? Well lets just say less than a PS3 and more than a 360.

Oh and the res on a 34" HDTV is amazing however I prefer to be able to game on the PC in my own Space and running it on a 19" HD monitor still makes it look amazing.

Mind you my 360 on the same screen looks awesome too.

ORIGINAL: KongRudi

They' ve been stuck on much weaker hardware than their competitors, for a while

locopuyo: and still are.

No, they arn' t.
But we can discuss that in a different thread than this, no point in taking this to far offtopic.

525$ Your price:
+ 300$ - 6 year Live subscription
+ 120$ - Wifi+Wireless controllerpack
+ 200$ - HD-DVD Drive
(oops.. now you too need HDMI-cable and better TV to take advantage of HD-DVD' s max resolution, that means + (1900$-600$=1200$, then we take away the 300$ your VGA-cable and TV-set for 360=900$))

1325-1925$ <= for your 360 with your prices..
And the PS3 owners still got plenty features, like SACD, Linux, and 40GB more then 360.. :P

The PS3 isn' t more expensive than 360, it just does more. :)

No dumb ass, you' ve just listed pointless shit that sony threw in their console to force you to buy it instead of having an option. For example HD DVD, Wifi, Wireless controller, and live subscriptions are not required. Instead of buying a video game console, you buy an over priced DVD player. PS3 is a piece of shit, we had this discussion months ago, sit down and shut up

Anything less than a 7900 GTX blows. I can' t decide whether i want to go Quadro SLI or with a 8800 GTX now though. At any rate, a 6800 is hardly worth bragging about, and i' d love to see a photo of your new HDTV Quez, y' know to compare it with my own LG...

Well I bought my 360 second hand afew months ago and sadly its dying (Im waiting for the courier to pick it up) but on the odd occasion it DOES work Gears of War has always been a great game and has never crashed on me!!

Glazer wherever you may be
You bought Old Trafford but you can' t buy me
And I said Im not for sale and I meant just that
You cant buy me you greedy twat!

I hope the PS3 is built better than this piece of crap. And the 360 IS a piece of crap.

Ah!! This is why im finding the 360 Visual output Slighty blurred and dull.

, you' d think it woud be decent but its just blurred as if its not sourced properly.. Every console ive played through VGA look MUCH sharper and brighter.. Dreamcasts VGA output Owns it. Even xbox 1' s VGA output gives out a cleaner look.