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MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 09:06








So we' ll definately be seeing gameplay at TGS then.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 09:31
...all this excitement in a single day HAS to be dangerous........

...Resi 4 style gameplay eh?..... ...can' t wait for the vids...



....now sleep...
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 10:15
Definately looking good. For some reason it' s really giving me a GRAW vibe.
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 10:34

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Definately looking good. For some reason it' s really giving me a GRAW vibe.


Same. They seem to have used similar " grainy" filters.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 16:58
That kind of perspective lends itself to " action" rather than stealth. I wonder whether the camera is fixed like that or whether the outdoor and indoor cameras are different.

If they' re aping GRAW then i can' t wait to see how they handle the stealth aspect and how the active camouflage fits into things. If it' s goingto be much more action orientated then outdoing GRAW could prove tough.

I seriously can' t wait to see direct feed 720p/1080p shots so we can see just how good it looks!

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 18:41
Hmm it seems (and I know these scans a low quality) that it has a signifficant quality drop in actual gameplay.

RE4 type of camera would be perfect for both sneaking and action.(Sam Fisher does it all the time - he was the first to use RE4style camera for shooting)
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 19:03

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That kind of perspective lends itself to " action" rather than stealth. I wonder whether the camera is fixed like that or whether the outdoor and indoor cameras are different.


According to IGN, the trailer these pics are from, kojima took some liberties with the camera so people better understand what is going on.
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 19:30
From those scans it seems the pace of the game has changed ...

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 19:46

Hmm it seems (and I know these scans a low quality) that it has a signifficant quality drop in actual gameplay.


I didn' t want to say anything but i thought exactly the same thing. I guess we' ll need some hi-res direct feed screens (which we' ll no doubt get in a couple of days) to know for sure.

What i am sure of straight away is that this doesn' t meet the visual quality of Gears of War. I' d be more inclined to compare it visually to Ubisofts games.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 19:55
Also IGN report that Kojima aid it will be released at the very end of 2007 at best - which means 2008 release is very likely to happen.

As for Visuals , as always cut-scenes are beathtaking while gameplay is good enough to play between them.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 20:49
Damn, they were taken down. I' ll upload them to imageshack myself.
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 20:54
pics dont work

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 21:02
Far better scans...









...and no visible downgrade.

The game looks awesome!

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 21:51
Now that it was mentioned in this thread I say we stop calling the over the shioulder view the RE4 style camera and refer to it as the Splinter Cell cam because that' s the game where it truly came from RE4 just jacked it from Splinter Cell. We need to give credit where it is due!
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 21, 2006 22:04
Yepp,Gears of war basically gonna use it to when you aim or behind cover and going up.

Ubi soft who invented it.
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 00:27
New trailer...

mms://vod.gamespot.lgcdn.com/gskr/story/39235/39235401.asf

I' m actually unipressed seeing it in motion. It doesn' t look as good as the original stuff shown...
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 00:57
RE4 camera is also a completely new way of controlling your character while he walks - so ,while it borrows shooting from Sam , it' s pretty innovative

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 01:01


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New trailer...

mms://vod.gamespot.lgcdn.com/gskr/story/39235/39235401.asf

I' m actually unipressed seeing it in motion. It doesn' t look as good as the original stuff shown...


Was just about to post it, I don' t know what to say about it think i' ll wait until some official stuff comes along.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 01:02

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RE4 camera is also a completely new way of controlling your character while he walks - so ,while it borrows shooting from Sam , it' s pretty innovative


What?
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 01:24
Thanks for the video.

This is what i expected,Majik said before that ofc gears of war will get a bit downgraded from " real time" pic to real graphic while playing.

Same with MGS4.

It still looks awesome.
Next-gen kick ass ffs.

Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 01:34

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Thanks for the video.

This is what i expected,Majik said before that ofc gears of war will get a bit downgraded from " real time" pic to real graphic while playing.

Same with MGS4.

It still looks awesome.
Next-gen kick ass ffs.





I' m trying to imagine what gears looked like the first time we saw real ingame.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PO6LccFj5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SodV-7n7HxU
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 02:16

What?


I guess you don' t remember RE4.

It had a nice and innovative TPP controls, and Splinter' s shooting view.Sam walks like every other TPP character.I don' t know what is it that you don' t understand, honestly.

To simplify :

RE4 walking - new
RE4 shooting - Static version of Splinter Cell' s over the shoulder view.

I actually think MGS4 will have dynamic=SC type of shooting controls , it wouldn' t make sense to have your character stop just to fire a few rounds.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 02:41
Dang, just deleted very long post, so Ill take the breif route

-we' re looking into it way too much
-I love all the games we' ve been talking about (SC, RE4, MGS) so any camera angle from one of those is good enough for me.
-I trust Kojima to deliver on visuals this nice, so I' m not worried about the camera, they know not to give us something ridiculously irritating.

Edit: Forgot to mention, I crapped my pants when I saw the video.
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 03:02








Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
What you gotta do is find its weak spot and do massive damage at it.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 03:03
Erm, after seeing the footage i ahve to say that it doesn' t look quite as good as i expected...


I' m trying to imagine what gears looked like the first time we saw real ingame.


UE3.0 Gears of War Tech Demonstration



Gears of War - Early 2006 Build (running on a PC)



Gears of War - Direct Feed Xbox 360 Screenshot from E3



Gears of War - Xbox 360 576p Video Screen Grabs (this s how it' ll look upon release)

[image]http://www.xboxfront.de/daten/screenshots/bilder_25564.jpg?name=Gears%20Of%20War[/image]

[image]http://www.xboxfront.de/daten/screenshots/bilder_25561.jpg?name=Gears%20Of%20War[/image]

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 03:06

Erm, after seeing the footage i ahve to say that it doesn' t look quite as good as i expected...


what didnt impress you

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 03:07

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Erm, after seeing the footage i ahve to say that it doesn' t look quite as good as i expected...


what didnt impress you


The MGS4 video.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 03:09
i was afraid it was GoW, i was about to smack you ;)

i havent seen the MGS video yet!

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 03:12
Has anyone else had serious buffering issues with the video? I tried it on 3 different PC' s and it was still slow. I dunno, maybe it' s the network I' m on...

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 03:21

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i was afraid it was GoW, i was about to smack you ;)

i havent seen the MGS video yet!


Yeah, like i' d slate the game i' ve been hyping since it' s announcement. I know more about the game than anybody here and i can' t wait until the 27th/28th -- X06 baby!

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 03:48
You wouldn' t slate it even if after playing it it felt like crap?

LOL:)

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 03:56

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You wouldn' t slate it even if after playing it it felt like crap?

LOL:)


If it was crap i' d slate it.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 03:58
You can' t slate a title like Gears of war,its basically a must have no matter what gameplay it delivers,i already seen the whole first level,it looked really fun.

But one of the reason it' s a must have without seeing anythig more is that its a show case for next-gen consoles.

No,im not a graphic-whore,but it' s nice to have a game that really shows what next-gen is all about,and just gaze about it.
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 05:31
lol @ at people who say they are not impressed....



....you WILL be...



....



...remember the E3 2005 video?













...remember how certain people here, were adamant that it was only cut scene?...

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 05:35
is that directfeed?

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 05:39
...yeah, but it' s from the original 2005 E3 trailer..
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 05:42
Yes,but it was basically a real-time footage,not gameplay.
It don' t say much tbh.

Because that footage don' t look as great as the in-game footage we now saw.
Even if you break 2 legs from a crab it still runs!
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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 08:05
jeez, that trailer brings back memories. I' ve actually got that on 2 different dvd' s. One in a PSM demo dvd, and the other on subsistance. I remember watching it over and over and over, just drooling.

Gameplay doesn' t look like that, but hey, as was said when the trailer was released, it' s not like it was expected to look exactly like that.

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RE: MGS4 INGAME!!! (Famitsu Scans) - Sep 22, 2006 08:23
Except the stuff where seeing now doesn' t look anywhere near as good as the E3 2005 trailer.

Some of the sreenshots in the scans are gorgeous, but Kojima has told Famitsu that they aren' t representations of gameplay, they' re just like that (perspective-wise) so people can see what' s happening.

The 1st person parts look terrible, just like the MGS2 and 3, and the video (newest) looks almost laughable. The animations are pathetic!

Judging from the scans, Snake looks great but things like his hair and poly count are obviously less impressive than in last years trailer. The environments are still bland and his new camo sucks.

I mean, does anything in those scans looks this good...



...??? Or this good...



...???

No!

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