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Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 09, 2006 19:57
Check some awesome features like (links lead to short videopresentations):

Timemachine (Awesome!)

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/timemachine.aspx

Spaces (awesome)

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/spaces.aspx

These two are amazing features that have been shown - many won' t be shown until before launch.(same story that Nintendo would give you - they might be copied by MS)

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 09, 2006 20:03
I like the time machine feature cos I always delete stuff that I wish I hadn' t later.

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 09, 2006 20:08
I always liked Mac´s but when you work at IT support, its really not a good idea to have a Mac

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 09, 2006 20:31
...yeah i saw this stuff the other day, but i thought no-one at PC-loving kikizo would be interested.... ...did you check out the new Xenon power-mac?...

...freaking awesome....
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 09, 2006 21:21
yeah...

I can' t wait to see it' s main features - the ones they' re keeping secret.

check this out :



Heheh I just found it :)

What' s IT Support? (stop it ! Don' t laugh!!) :)

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 09, 2006 21:26
managing networks with PC´s and servers, these installations dont work well with mac, as they use AppleTalk

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 09, 2006 21:32
Looks alright. That time machine thing looks like a more functional version of system restore.

I' m pretty sure that spaces thing was already in Tiger. Or at least something extremely similar. You just had to enable in with some tweaking first and it wasn' t as big on the eye candy. I remember using it.


managing networks with PC´s and servers, these installations dont work well with mac, as they use AppleTalk


What are you talking about? Mac' s have had the TCP/IP protocol stack for a while now. They' re not that far back in the past.
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 09, 2006 22:09
does this mean nothing gets deleted?
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 09, 2006 22:12
If so wouldn it mean anyone would be able to access it?.

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 09, 2006 22:12
.....don' t take the bait ]GaNgStA[ ....PC v Mac arguments are getting more boring than PS3 v 360 arguments...
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 10, 2006 00:11
It looks cool but I' ll stick with windows. Two of my roomates have G5s (decked out) and while they are awesome I still prefer using Windows and my Alienware.
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 10, 2006 00:14

What are you talking about? Mac' s have had the TCP/IP protocol stack for a while now. They' re not that far back in the past.


i know they have that! But there still widespread issues in having a Mac in a domain with windows machines, its simply not worth the effort!

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 10, 2006 04:09

does this mean nothing gets deleted?


Great idea, but there are some things that have passed through my accursed box, that I never want to see again. Plus, some things that would make more than a few people angry.

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 10, 2006 04:47

Plus, some things that would make more than a few people angry.



Nude photos of the ex? or gayporn?

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 10, 2006 05:26

know they have that! But there still widespread issues in having a Mac in a domain with windows machines, its simply not worth the effort!


So Ture But If your configure them right you shouldent have a prob but there are some cases were you just feel like getting rid that dumb mac Which too me are the bect thing in the world. but sometime things can be dumb

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 10, 2006 08:33

i know they have that! But there still widespread issues in having a Mac in a domain with windows machines, its simply not worth the effort!

There are no issues. I have Macs and PCs talking to each other without any problems here. I think the real problem is the IT techs are more educated on PCs and probably don' t understand how Macs work. They expect the networking to be radically different and perhaps complicated. If your PCs are current, and your Macs are even just somewhat current, there are no issues.

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 10, 2006 08:42
Joe' s right. We have about 10 Macs running Tiger running perfectly with the rest of our 100 odd PC' s (at work). Heck, they' re probably the one thing that I' ve had to troubleshoot the least.

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 10, 2006 08:46
Why is this mac stuff in the videogames section?
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 10, 2006 09:43

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It looks cool but I' ll stick with windows. Two of my roomates have G5s (decked out) and while they are awesome I still prefer using Windows and my Alienware.


LOL who the fuck buys alienwares?

I have to hand it to alienware though, I wish I could start a business taking advantage of clueless people like they do, it' s genius, and so is apple, macs aren' t worth their price.

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 10, 2006 13:48

Why is this mac stuff in the videogames section?

Because Macs are the best game-playing computers!!!!!



Oh wait....


I wish I could start a business taking advantage of clueless people like they do, it' s genius, and so is apple, macs aren' t worth their price.

I want to start a business by taking advantage of clueless people as well. I will sell these complete morons an operating system, but I' ll have a Home edition, a Professional edition, a Server edition, a Media edition and a whole bunch of other editions so people get confused and spend too much because they need a small little feature only included in the expensive editions.
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 10, 2006 19:50

does this mean nothing gets deleted?


I' m sure there are posisbilities to delete something permanently :)

Did you know that when you delete a file , it' s still there untill it' s overwritten with something else? " Delet" is simply a permision to overwrite,at the same time it makes the " deleted" file invisible - that' s why some specialists can restore a lot of data from computers.

I' m staying with PC' s and windows because of the price - at least for now.

The funny thing though is that you can run XP under MacOS (windows in a window? how cool is that?) with 100% speed (on intel based Macs)

I' m getting me a Mac one day , it' s just not today, tomorrow, next week or even ... :)



Why is this mac stuff in the videogames section?


Because Level 5 members can do whatever they want and others must simply obey HUAHUAHUAHAUAAAAAHAHGHAHAAHHAHA

:)
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 11, 2006 01:47





does this mean nothing gets deleted?



I' m sure there are posisbilities to delete something permanently :)

Did you know that when you delete a file , it' s still there until it' s overwritten with something else? " Delete" is simply a permission to overwrite,at the same time it makes the " deleted" file invisible - that' s why some specialists can restore a lot of data from computers.

...yea...

....i' m no tech but as far as i understand it, the more times a file is overwritten during a ' delete' , then the more difficult it is to restore said file, which effectively increases the chances of that file remaining ' deleted' .....

....it will be interesting to see how Leopard' s Time Machine works with Tiger' s current ' Secure Empty Trash' command, which allows for the kind of multi-level file overwriting which PC users get from third parties.....
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 11, 2006 07:34
you can run xp on intel macs, it isn' t in a window, you press a command to switch over, just like the old machines that had both mac and windows. Someone had that at a LAN I went to not too long ago.
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 11, 2006 16:36
there are few options - one is running it in a window.

http://blogs.ign.com/Matt-IGN/2006/05/19/18416/


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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 12, 2006 01:22
okay, didn' t know you could go in a window, that is pretty cool.

If you just delete a file it is possible to restore it. If you write over that place on the hard drive with another file it is impossible to restore it. If you format your hard-drive (not a quick format a full straight up format) everything will be gone and impossible to restore. That stuff you see in movies is just a bunch of hollywood bs.
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 12, 2006 08:17


I want to start a business by taking advantage of clueless people as well. I will sell these complete morons an operating system, but I' ll have a Home edition, a Professional edition, a Server edition, a Media edition and a whole bunch of other editions so people get confused and spend too much because they need a small little feature only included in the expensive editions.


Actually, no. If you want to do things like, oh I don' t know, play games on a PC, you need Windows and you can' t create a substitute. People working in certain fields might also need certain operating systems because it' s the only thing their shit will run on.

You don' t need alienwares for anything, they are a scam designed for clueless fucks, your comparison is asinine and doesn' t even make sense.
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 12, 2006 12:07
Alienwares are good if you are rich. I just got all the parts for my new PC that I' m building. Compared to an alienware with the same stuff I saved $2000. My computer in total costed $2000 (including monitor).
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 12, 2006 14:04
$2000 doesnt produce a very high end PC, my Processor alone is worth $999.99, I doubt alienware even carries that CPU, and if they did it would easily cost $1200-1500.

If you build something that' s actually high end on alienware you easily get $6000-7000 quotes, wheras you can build the same thing with better quality material for $3000-4000 on your own.

The only reason you should buy brand name pc' s is if you have deals with the manufacturers, my company has a deal with dell and we get decent PCs and LCDs for dirt cheap, otherwise there is no reason.
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 12, 2006 18:29

If you just delete a file it is possible to restore it. If you write over that place on the hard drive with another file it is impossible to restore it. If you format your hard-drive (not a quick format a full straight up format) everything will be gone and impossible to restore. That stuff you see in movies is just a bunch of hollywood bs.


I don' t know what movies you were talking about , but you can burn/crash your HDD and there are people that will restore 90% of your files.

1000$ for a CPU? that' s great if you' re building a space shuttle, but for a home PC - it' s just showing off (unless CPU' s are extremely expensive in the US).

Brand PC' s have one signifficant advantage - they' re optimised (cooling,build) and easy to configure (drivers and shit all on one disc).

Avarage PC user wouldn' t be able to do all this shit right and he' d face some problems like overheating,noise,stability (drivers) and others.

But yeah, if you know what you' re doing you can build a great machine for much less.And you have that joy of making it :)

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 13, 2006 04:25
That´s great. It´s just like the explorer history. I bet my granny that it won´t go long till Microsoft copies the system.

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 13, 2006 05:49


ORIGINAL: Evil Man

$2000 doesnt produce a very high end PC, my Processor alone is worth $999.99, I doubt alienware even carries that CPU, and if they did it would easily cost $1200-1500.



A processor worth $999? That' s not high end, that' s stupid!


wheras you can build the same thing with better quality material for $3000-4000 on your own.


Who the f*** wastes $3000+ on a PC?

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 13, 2006 06:12
I would just like to point out my CPU costed $330 which is a core 2 duo 6600 and the core 2 extreme is $1000. The core 2 extreme is only 15% better.

I can' t help but lawl upon you.
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 13, 2006 07:26

Who the f*** wastes $3000+ on a PC?


People who want to play a 60 quid game called Crysis.
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 13, 2006 10:24

Who the f*** wastes $3000+ on a PC?


I pay $3000 for something that' s worth $3000. You pay $2000 for something that' s worth $800, who is the fucking idiot? You are.


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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 13, 2006 10:25

ORIGINAL: locopuyo

I would just like to point out my CPU costed $330 which is a core 2 duo 6600 and the core 2 extreme is $1000. The core 2 extreme is only 15% better.


Actually it is 30%-40% better.

If my CPU is 30% better, my GPU 30% better, by ram 30% better, on all levels including overclocking, my performance will be much greater than yours. Jealousy is a weak emotion.
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 13, 2006 23:30


ORIGINAL: Evil Man

I pay $3000 for something that' s worth $3000. You pay $2000 for something that' s worth $800, who is the fucking idiot? You are.



Ok, so you' re a scientist? If not then it doesn' t make sence to buy a $3000 PC.
I haven' t bought anything worth $800 for $2000. You' re weird.


Actually it is 30%-40% better.

If my CPU is 30% better, my GPU 30% better, by ram 30% better, on all levels including overclocking, my performance will be much greater than yours. Jealousy is a weak emotion.


Ok, but if a $1500 PC can play all the current games without any problems at all, why should I bother with a $3000+ PC?

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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 14, 2006 01:28
Yout don' t even know what I have. And without overclocking it is impossible for yours to be 30% better. And even if it was 30% better my computer would straight up blow yours away in price/performance comparison.
And if you actually do have all of the latest parts I have even less respect for you (if that is possible).
And why would I be jelous? You are one of those idiots in extreme denial who has convinced himself everyone wants to be just like himself to prevent himself from suicide. While the truth is no one likes you.
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 14, 2006 01:36

my Processor alone is worth $999.99


Your processor is about 200+ more expensive than the machine I bought.

3200+ amd
1.5gb ram
6600Gt

It plays Oblivion and the new games fine, thats What I wanted. And I am happy with it.
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 14, 2006 06:30
Nah, my spare (2.5 year old) PC has better specs than that and oblivion plays like shit, athlon 64 3500+ (overclocked to 4000+ speeds) 2gb ram, readeon x800xtpe andthe game just chugs. Couldn' t imagine playing it on a 6600gt and with 3200 athlon... you' d have to turn alot of stuff off and play at low res.

You obviously have low quality standards.
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RE: Mac OSX Leopard - or as they call it ...Vista2.0 :) - Aug 14, 2006 06:33

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Yout don' t even know what I have. And without overclocking it is impossible for yours to be 30% better. And even if it was 30% better my computer would straight up blow yours away in price/performance comparison.
And if you actually do have all of the latest parts I have even less respect for you (if that is possible).
And why would I be jelous? You are one of those idiots in extreme denial who has convinced himself everyone wants to be just like himself to prevent himself from suicide. While the truth is no one likes you.


Yeah in other words you' re jealouse.

Move on bud. My PC is better than yours, wow, end of the world, get over it.
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