HD TV: Are you getting one?

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whatabout_paul
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HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 25, 2005 18:46
Well the 360 is almost upon us promising better looking games than ever before. One piece of kit Microsoft and even Sony are insistent we purchase to enjoy their games at their best is a High Definition TV.

I' ve been looking around for the best HD TV' s and they mostly come in super size, way over budget for most mere mortals. But hidden away are a few more modest examples within grabbing distance for all.

Take for example this beauty.



26" and in full High Def. Yours for only £600 (Apparently around $1000 but you' ve more options) if you know where to look.

So is anyone here planning on joining the HD Revolution like me or have you already?

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 25, 2005 20:03
Got a 26 inch Samsung CRT just two months ago.

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 25, 2005 20:34
I use my 22 inch CRT monitor, I have a viewsonic HD adapter thing for it but might just get the vga adapter for the 360. My roomate just bought a viewsonic 32 inch 8 ms widescreen LCD. Now only the hard part of getting a 360 awaits us.
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 00:24
I have the Sony 34XBR960. 34 inches. Just like me.

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 03:34
I don' t know. I don' t want a big TV (>32" ), takes to much space, hard to move and it' s bad for the eyes unless you sit a mile away and all so I want a smaller TV, like 28" or something. I' ve heard that the difference in picture quality between a regular TV and a HDTV isn' t very noticable unless you have a 37" or bigger so maybe I' ll stick with regular TVs for a while if that' s how it is. Anyone who have compared a smaller regular TV with one of those big HDTVs who can tell how the difference in picture quality is?
And how does the picture look if you play games with a projector?

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 05:32
I currently have a 36" RCA Xbox ready TV. It' s incredibly clear and apparently " fakes" HD. Not sure how that works but it looks far better than any regular TV I' ve ever seen. I may eventually go HD but I currently have no reason too.
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 05:58
None Tv channel in sweden has any broadcast in HDTV,so...its quite useless and they are to expensive at the moment,like when dvd came out-... so i buy one mayby next year or in 2 years.
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 12:54
Aren' t the U.S. Government going to make all TV signals HD in 2009? In other words, HDTV will be compulasary.

Im not American though, so ha to those who have to fork out thousands of dollars.
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 12:57
You don' t need a HDTV to pick up a Digital signal. Any regular old tv will still work with the high def signal.
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 13:17
...After you purchase a $50 convertor box, that is.

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 14:23
Nope. They lie about that crap. You actually get a better signal without the damn converter box when on a regular tv. I just had digital cable put in my new apartment. The converter box actually took too much signal and made the picture all fuzzy. I plugged the cable right in front of the cable guy and it came out perfectly clear. He was all like " that' s not supposed to happen" . I smiled and shrugged. They just want you to buy their converter to make it seem like your getting a better signal. the only thing that box adds is a the channel browser thing and on demand stuff. Lies and propoganda.
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 15:08
I have a Sony 34" High Def TV, with a Directv HD tuner, and I have a Sony 23" 16:9 monitor. Soon (it shipped Oct. 25) I' ll have my projector set up (which is capable of 720p) and I' ll be able to give you guys the lowdown on that.


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I' ve heard that the difference in picture quality between a regular TV and a HDTV isn' t very noticable unless you have a 37" or bigger so maybe I' ll stick with regular TVs for a while if that' s how it is. Anyone who have compared a smaller regular TV with one of those big HDTVs who can tell how the difference in picture quality is?
And how does the picture look if you play games with a projector?


Ginjirou, the difference in going from regular tv to HD is HUGE. Not just talking about an HD set with a regular, or even digital input. To truly get the BEST experience, an HD source is mandatory! I mean, I had digital cable, and a dvd player hooked up to my HD set for a while. It was pretty nice too! But when I hooked up that HD Satellite tuner, man, it' s another world! Not to mention that Xbox in HD is frickin sweet as well.

As far as needing a bigger set, I' d say nay to that as well. On my Sony monitor, which is only 23" , the HD stuff looks awesome, compared to a regular satallite signal (which I had plugged into it for a while). Basically, you just have to take that leap of faith, and see for yourself. I think you' ll like it. Lord know, I' ll never go back!

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 17:55
Eventually. Right now I have a few more important things to get out of the way first.

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 18:07
Rampage, I think you are a bit confused. We are talking about HDTV broadcasts over the air. A regular TV is completely incapable of receiving digital transmissions, much less HDTV transmissions. A $50 convertor box will be required to receive free TV broadcast OVER THE AIR, not on cable. Cable sucks. I can' t imagine paying for television programming.

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 18:14
Was gonna say the same thing,2006 whole sweden should be digital broadcast,so you need a cable box for your tv,if you wanna watch the national tv channels.
Or all other channels...If you dont have a para... nvm
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 18:28
I think they are allowed to broadcast in SDTV as long as they are also broadcasting in HDTV for the same area. So you don' t even really need a converter yet. And they were supposed to move to all HDTV over air by 2004... They just constantly postpone it.
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 20:13
It' s 2009 in America now. Probably 2137 in Europe since they are behind on everything except cell phones, which they are ahead of everyone else.

And the conversion isn' t to HDTV broadcating, it is to DIGITAL broadcasting. Right now in my town I get a lot of 480i (standard definition) broadcast channels in digital. You can put 3 SD channels into the same bandwidth as 1 HDTV channel, so a lot of stations have 3 different video feeds going simultaneously. Some even have 1 HD stream paired with an SD stream which steals bandwidth and makes the HD content look like ass. But the $50 boxes will definitely be able to downconvert the 19mbps HDTV stream into letterboxed video viewable on any SD TV.

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 26, 2005 21:24
Ah... makes sense.
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 27, 2005 02:07
We already have just digital broadcasting in some parts of sweden,analog is gone 2006.
Dad alreay bought one of those cable box,it also let me watch fox news with bill oreilly
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 27, 2005 02:24
just wanted to confirm that high def makes an enourmous difference no matter what size the screen.
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 27, 2005 02:34
Ofc it does,but what kind of graphic engine is inside make more diffrence.
I mean what would look best?
Gears of war at 800' 600 or like a bad game from 2002 at 1280' 720?
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 27, 2005 04:15
Well obviously the games are going to look different. but if you compare that crap game from 2002 on a normal TV to one with High Definition and you' ll still see a difference, even though a HD-TV signal won' t be sent.

Compare a 360 game on a normal TV and one on HD you should hopefully see a bigger difference as the signal coming from the console to the TV will be in HD.

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 27, 2005 09:52
I just say that resolution is not close to game graphic engine.
A game that have higher resolution (like using a hdtv) wont look nearly as good as a game with greater graphic engine.
I mean brother in arms at 1280' 1024 look good,but fear at 1024' 768 look 10 times better.
So for me its all about how the graphic engine look,i mean look at doom3 for ex to xbox,i just cant understand how a xbox can rendered that,and it look a lot better then any pc version with lower resoultion,so its all about programing and optimize for a code etc,not about the resolution in itself.
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 27, 2005 12:36
Well that is true, but what the guy was asking was if getting an HDTV for xbox 360 would make a difference if he was getting a small TV. The answer is yes, it makes a huge difference. I use a 22 CRT viewsonic monitor with a viewsonic high def TV thing that connects to it. Even 480p from 480i makes is very noticiable. When I watch HDTV there is an enourmous difference. I' ve also used a 17 inch monitor and still noticed an enourmous difference.
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 27, 2005 14:52
Hi all, I' m new to this forum...yeey

Umm, I' m getting a HDTV myself, but not one of those HUGE ones, I wanna get like a 27" or 30" max. I' m also buying a xbox 360 on e-bay and a Xbox Live Gold Membership. Man I can' t wait to play 360 games...I' m gonna cry , lol.
And yes, I actually had a HDTV for like a month, then returned it cuz sumthing was wrong with it, but anyways that' s besides the point, I can say there is a huge difference between standard tv and hdtv. Some of the channels i received had this one month promotion thing, where they broadcasted with HDTV signal. Do urselves a favour and buy one, even if it' s cheap and from a not-so-well-known brand.

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 27, 2005 15:17
Armed with my credit card I layed down some cash for a HD TV today. I found the Samsung 26" for a cool £600... easily the cheapest store price I' ve seen. It' s £800 in PC world, Dixons and the like. In fact Amazon is doing ot for £650 but the delivery time on that is 4-6 weeks. I didn' t leave with the TV as they had none in stock. Funnily for £600 a piece they sold out. All is not last, last Monday they ordered 200 more expecting the delivery sometime this week or next.

Are there any current gen games that take advantage of HD?

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 27, 2005 16:34
Go to HDTV Arcade and click on the name of the system you want to scope out (in the upper left). You will be given a list of what games support what for that system. Only the Xbox and PS2 can do HD. The Gamecube is limited to 480p which is known as EDTV, or " extended definition" . it is still better than 480i, though. You will need component cables.

Of course, most PAL games do not support the HD modes because they are PAL and PAL sucks tremendous amounts of hairy ass. Everyone in the world hates PAL. But some PAL games can run in 480p. Get an NTSC system and NTSC versions of all the games. Join their forums to learn more if the PAL version can run in 480p or HD. For example the PAL version of Resident Evil 4 for the PS2 can run in 480p.

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 28, 2005 07:59
I' ll take a look there, thanks. At a guess the games that are HD that also run in 60 mhz mode will work. Unfortunately that’s not a lot and we are usually stuck with 50mhz. That’s a fraction slower but sometimes with boarders. I know on the Saturn the difference was very noticeable but not sure about the current gen.

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 28, 2005 14:57
Welcom to the world of HDTV paul. I' ve got a Toshiba 30HFX84 (30 inch tv) and love it. I don' t even have any Hi def signals going to it yet, so I' m really looking forward to seeing my 360 on it. The widescreen alone is nice though.


have the Sony 34XBR960. 34 inches. Just like me.


Wow, just like Joe didn' t know I was Canadian, I didn' t know he was a midget!! OH, sorry Joe, Little person.

- I am jealous of the XBR though. 34 inches wouldn' t fit in my cabinet though, and I just didn' t have the cash at the time for it.

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Oct 28, 2005 16:26
PAL runs in 50 hz and ntsc 60 hz, not mhz. 50 hz is 50 frames per second and 60 hz is 60 frames per seconds. Just to clarify ;)
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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Nov 05, 2005 00:07
Hey everyone....


I just got a 27inch sanyo with built in hd that supports up to 1080i for 389 us dollars from walmart(the store that kills)

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RE: HD TV: Are you getting one? - Nov 05, 2005 02:03
No I won' t getting one at the moment as I simply can' t afford it, but I just hope I won' t be missing out on too much