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tbonejg24
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plasma or lcd - Jul 30, 2005 17:01
what one is better to you? price? pitcure?

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RE: plasma or lcd - Jul 30, 2005 18:54
I would go with LCD, they last longer, and don' t flicker. Plasma would most likely have higher contrast ratio and brightness, but after a few years may fade a bit.

The thing to look at when buying an LCD would be the response time. Since HDTV signals are only 60 fps 16 ms response time or fater should be good enough. I think the fastest response time right now is 4 ms.

Another thing to look at is resolution. 1280x720 is probably what you would want. That would be a widescreen 720P HDTV.
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RE: plasma or lcd - Jul 30, 2005 20:55
Also if you want to play games you better get an LCD because in a plasma the picture could be burned into the screen kinda like a permanent screen saver thats what you want. So LCD is the better choice for games or anyother media.

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RE: plasma or lcd - Jul 30, 2005 21:02
Plasmas only last about 3 years from what I' ve heard so knowing that I definately choose LCD.
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RE: plasma or lcd - Jul 31, 2005 02:37
Neither, go for DLP. They are releasing the new 1080p sets with a native resolution of 1920x1080p with over 2 million pixels of crystal clear film like images. For a fraction of the cost of both plus DLP never burns in so it' s perfect for games and is also has spilt screen PIP with PC input so you can have half the screen be PC and half be tv or video games. You can get a 50" for like $3500 all the way upto 71" for $6500 which is MUCH cheaper then LCD and plamsa (which is really bad for games way too much burn in images).

http://www.tvauthority.com//DLP-TV-HDTV/DLP-TV-HDTV.asp for info

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RE: plasma or lcd - Jul 31, 2005 05:05
Plasma' s are garbage. Go LCD if you can afford it.

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 01, 2005 18:59
I' ll choose LCD, too.

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 02, 2005 09:32
Looks like I' m going to take the oposite approach here. Plasma over LCD, but none of that cheapo plasma, cause everybody here is right, they go pretty quick. See the problem with LCD is that it' s using light to make black, and then the contrast just looks like shit, I can' t stand blotchy blacks. Go for the high end (and I' m assuming you can afford it since you started this thread anyway) plasma, and you won' t have trouble for a long time. Reviews on some of the Pioneer ones were very good, as were the reviews on the Sony and Hitachi.

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 03, 2005 18:46
the LCD would last a lot longer than a plasma because the plasma heats up too fast trust me.

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 03, 2005 19:58
This is an interesting article which touts the positive characteristics of plasma displays versus LCDs.

http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatvreviews/plasma-vs-lcd.aspx

Keep in mind, though, that they talk about plasma screen burn-in only briefly, and for AVERAGE consumers. If you play video games a lot (which, most likely you do considering you' re on this thread!) then it plays a MAJOR issue. Imagine playing a racing game all day, then popping in Halo and still having a steering wheel on the screen!

That' s why I love my CRT! Sony Wega 34" . Perfect for video games, movies, whatever! Luckily my house has a nook where I can stick the damn thing. Because it is a BEAST!!

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 03, 2005 22:16
Is your Sony the 34XBR960 or something like that? That' s what I have.

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 03, 2005 22:50


ORIGINAL: Joe Redifer

Is your Sony the 34XBR960 or something like that? That' s what I have.


I know this is really pathetic, Joe, but go easy on me! I couldn' t wait!! Dammit! I just couldn' t! You see, there was the XBR, and there was the non-XBR. The XBR was $300 more. I could' ve had the money the NEXT WEEK! I could' ve...

Dammit!! Dammit to HELL!

It' s ok, though. I love it anyway!

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 04, 2005 17:58
LCD is awsome...

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 07, 2005 14:21
I just helped this guy set up a 64" DLP tv 2 days ago. Along with a 700 watt surround sound system and some crazy remote with a color LCD screen that can control everything including your curtains. He won it all in some drawing.

Anyways DLP is pretty good, but the viewing angles aren' t that great. The high end LCDs have much better viewing angles.

Of cousre the best choice woudl be CRT if you have room for it. But most people dont' have space for a CRT. I would go with an LCD, they are usually the thinnest and lightest and have a better picture. The newest ones have a 4 ms response time, that is like a 200 frames per second or something, it blows everything else away.
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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 07, 2005 15:48
was it a new 1080p set? They are supposed to have good viewing angles and the best picture and clearity and quality for much cheaper then LCD and Plasma. with over 2 million pixels of digitally precise light and Samsung' s proprietary technologies.

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 07, 2005 16:03
I dont' remember what the model was and stuff. I don' t think it was a samsung though. I don' t think it had 1080p either, but I didn' t really check. The guy was really only going to use it for satelite TV and DVD' s. So he isn' t really using his TV to its potential. All he had was the cables that came with it too. So it is using really cheap cables, but it is hooked up with component. It did have very good contrast and brightness. But the viewing angles could have been a lot better. It was not nearly as bad as the regular projection tv' s though. Picture quality was good, and I know 640i is not its native resolution. But DVDs and TV look a lot better on my 22 inch viewsonic CRT than they did on that. But what is kind of funny as that 64 inch DLP tv barely weighed more than my 22 inch CRT and didn' t stick back as far.
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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 07, 2005 16:34
If you play games with a HUD, go LCD, there is no burn-in, but there is a possibility for un-noticable dead pixels.

Plasma will cause SEVERE (I warn you, I played Halo 2 on mine) burn in.

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 07, 2005 16:58
Dead pixels are always noticeable. And deadly. They cause cancer.

I think I' ll wait for a 3 chip DLP. I don' t like the spinning color-wheel thingy they' ve got going for the home versions now.

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 07, 2005 17:14
My bad, I didn' t mean to respond, can I delete this manually?
< Message edited by TXSPheonix -- 8 Aug 05 1:15:34 >

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 09, 2005 07:32
I know what you mean about the spinning color wheel Joe. My pops got one, and I' m in that percentage of people that can see red and green flashes whenever I move my head side to side watching the big screen. It' s not horrible, but it is annoying.

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 09, 2005 15:23
I' m sure the majority of people could see them if they saw it side by side an LCD.

It seems like everyone runs their refresh rate at 60 hz. Then I' m like, wow that is flickery, want me to fix that for u? I change it to 85 hz and they are like, whats the difference? Then I change it back and they are like wow, that is flickery.

And by the way burning in the Halo 2 hud on ur plasma is badass, I solute you.
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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 09, 2005 15:52
You can only change the refresh rate on computer monitors.

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 09, 2005 16:16

And by the way burning in the Halo 2 hud on ur plasma is badass, I solute you


HA

Thnx

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 10, 2005 16:58
I know u can only change it on computers, I' m just using it as an example that if someone saw an LCD with no flicker next to a flicker rainbow wheel DLP they would be able to tell it is flickery.
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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 10, 2005 17:42


ORIGINAL: locopuyo

So he isn' t really using his TV to its potential. All he had was the cables that came with it too. So it is using really cheap cables, but it is hooked up with component.


Joe, what' s your take on this? You' re in the Audio/Video field, right? Does it really make THAT big a difference if you use some cables over others? I mean, I know if you' re setting up something over a long distance a cable degrading the signal that passes through it can be a big deal, but what about just hooking up your dvd player to your tv?

The reason I ask is because I' m boycotting Monster Cable. They' re suing everyone with the word " monster" in a product. This includes Disney for " Monsters, Inc." , Discovery channel for " Monster Garage" , and the Chicago Bears, because people call them the " Monsters of the Midway" !

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/11/08/BUG1J9N3C61.DTL&type=business

I could not make this stuff up, folks!!

Oh, and if it DOES make a difference, are there any alternatives to Monster Cable?

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 10, 2005 22:42
Well, I wouldn' t use really thin crappy/cheap-o cables. But as a rule I avoid Monster as well. They are horrendously overpriced for what you get. There are some people who will swear up and down that hooking something up with Monster Cable is a night/day difference. It is important that you understand that these people have no ability for rational thought and are of no use to humanity and should be disposed of.

There are Monster alternatives: everything else! Just use cables that feel sturdy, aren' t too thin. But there is no need to pay outrageous prices for cable. For game systems, the Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo brand component cables are more than adequate.

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 11, 2005 17:10
I play xbox using all of my computer equipment, 22 inch monitor, 5.2 530 watt surround sound, using the viewsonic n6 to connect the xbox to my monitor in high def and a sound blaster audigy 2 platinum to connect the dobly digital sound.
So I have a ton of cables all over and with these slightly better than what comes with the xbox component video cables i was getting extreme interference. Sometimes it couldn' t even tell there was a progressive signal it was so bad.
Then I went to radio shack and bought some monster cables, not the most expensive, but good ones, and I get zero noticable interference, it looks a hell of a lot better. I also don' t really link monster and hate how everybody thinks that is the only good cable, but that was all radio shack had that was good. And I don' t really have any other options around where I live, except online, and I was in a hurry.

But if you see little white specs on the screen apear you aren' t getting a clear signal, I used to see just a few white specs sometimes, but with the new cables I don' t see any, it is much better. So cables can make a huge difference.
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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 11, 2005 22:53
With Monster Cable I see white specks. Interestingly, with the " free" cables that most manufacturers include with their DVD players, etc I see no specks.

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 12, 2005 11:33
What the hell is the difference between a plasma and a Liquid Crystal Display?
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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 12, 2005 16:02
Well, basically the technology. Plasma uses plasma and LCD uses a liquid crystal display.

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RE: plasma or lcd - Aug 12, 2005 18:26
.........

So anyway, what' s the difference between a plasma and an LCD?





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