So not funny...

In fact it's tragic...

It's only as thick as voting for someone because they're black.

It's all irrelevant anyhow, because short of a felony conviction, Obama has the White House on lock.

The McCain campaign has positively imploded, and the blame rests sorely on John & Sarah's feet. Obama didn't do a whole lot to beat 'em back. They made sure they took care of that themselves.

Unless... for the first time since 1980, we have an election in which majority popularity flips in the last three weeks of the election.

...But then, McCain's no Reagan.

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Since when are "niggras" second stringers? What sport are they playing?

Obama can undo all of the damage that Bush has done to America's image abroad. I don't know anybody who would even consider McCain.

Torr

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Torr would vote McCain?

Torr's an idiot.

I don't get why Americans vote out of principle and not out of self interest.  The whole point of democracy is to have peoples interests addressed.  That's why everyone gets one vote and not just people with degrees in ethics.  This is especially true with the poor.  The Republicans are not fiscally conservative, they haven't been for a long time.  They're the ones who are keeping minimum wage low enough so that you'd never be able to support yourself with it meanwhile they're giving these mega corporations massive tax breaks and generally skewing laws in their favor.  The poor in America are getting fucked by both ends.  The reason is because the corporations sponsor the politicians, the politicians owe the corporations. 

Even if you're still inclined to vote out of principle neither the republicans or democrates represent the ideals they paint themselves with.

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Obama can undo all of the damage that Bush has done to America's image abroad. I don't know anybody who would even consider McCain.

Sounds like someones hopped on the Obamessiah train.

mastachefbkw

Obama can undo all of the damage that Bush has done to America's image abroad. I don't know anybody who would even consider McCain.

Sounds like someones hopped on the Obamessiah train.

From a European point of view, Obama is the right choice... Or that's how it is portrayed here

Obama would be great for Europe. But we're not electing a president because Europe will like him.

Obama can undo all of the damage that Bush has done to America's image abroad. I don't know anybody who would even consider McCain.

How? Sure, he's charismatic, and he's a great speechwriter, but how are his policies going to help? One candidate supports redistribution of wealth, and the other supports trickle down economics. Both candidates are proposing massive new spending measures, and more government expansion, which isn't what a country trillions and trillions of dollars in debt, on the verge of a recession, needs. I'm not sure I even would vote this year, even if I were old enough. It's a douche and a turd sandwich at this point.

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 Conservatives aren't the only ones in America without a clue. Someone from the Howard Stern show walked around Harlem asking voters about the candidates, and why they support them.

"Do you support Obama more because he's pro life, or because he thinks our troops should stay in Iraq and finish this war?

Obama is anti stem-cell research, are you in support of that policy?

If he wins, would you have any problems with Sarah Palin as vice president? Are you glad he elected her to be VP?"

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Riddle me this BatMan. Why do so many White Americans hate my people? Sometimes I just don't get it. It’s like we are 3rd world people. I want lie to you at times I feel like blowing white Americans up. But I know not all white folks hate black people. All this hate makes a brotha sad and down at times.

I am so sick of all this hatred. White folks hating black folks are just as ignorant as blacks hating white.

I just don't get what my people have done to deserve this type of treatment. This hatred is one of the reason why I don't date white woman that and my wife want let me.

My people have come so far and not a thing has changed. I can't wait until Jesus comes back things will get a lot better when the big man comes a knocking.

I don't want to offend anybody by what I said I don't dislike white people I dislike the racist and insensitive white people.


Nice Post Jew Bastard.

You act like blacks are the only ones mistreated. I hate to tell you this, but racism is just as much black peoples faults as it is White(and any other color for that matter). Seriously, black people have absolutely no disadvantage in this country. They preach equality, but I don't recall seeing a whites only college scholarship. There was a local incident in my area about a year ago where a black guy raped an 80 year old woman and a 50 year old paraplegic woman, then was on the run for a few days. A man found him hiding in his van and held him down at gunpoint until police arrived. Now, a few weeks ago, the black guy's family sued the white guy for a hate crime. I understand hating people who have discriminated you, but to refer to it as all, or even "most", white people is just as ignorant.

...And how has "nothing changed" for black Americans? Last I checked when Africans were transported to the Americas they had absolutely no rights, whatsoever. Then after the Civil Rights movements, it was unlawful to discriminate based on appearance, gender, etc. To me it appears as though blacks have the exact same rights as whites or any other race.

Man Master is a long ass story I'm not saying other don't have it bad. But the comments were dealing with black folks. So lets stay in the context of the youtubers if you want to have a real convo lets go to pm. I might say something that will piss folks off.

By the way master I dont know what part of america you live in but I can honestly tell nothing has changed for my people around here. I cant say blacks are resonsible for racism.

I let some of my freinds  read your comments (I wont say what race they are) but none of them are black. Most of them were left kind of dumb founded when they read "Seriously, black people have absolutely no disadvantage in this country" This stuck out to them they wanted me to ask you what part of america are you located in.

But all of them and I mean all of them aggreed about the scholarship deal they never thought of it like that. I did not say all white people were ignorant. I did say not all white people hate blacks.

When I said nothing has change I ment as far as rasism goes.  Nothing has changed as far as racism goes. Not to us. Whats your take on rasism Master ? Has it changed?

I let some of my freinds  read your comments (I wont say what race they are) but none of them are black. Most of them were left kind of dumb founded when they read "Seriously, black people have absolutely no disadvantage in this country" This stuck out to them they wanted me to ask you what part of america are you located in.

I meant to say that black people have no major disadvantage that whites don't. Which I believe is true. What major disadvantage does a black person have in America(as a whole) that a white person doesn't. When I say that I mean as far as their opportunities go. I don't mean they don't experience racism, because everyone does. I've met black people who were rude/wouldn't even consider me human because I wasn't black.

....and I'm located in southwestern Virginia in a county that has two areas: one that is probably considered the "ghetto" of our county and the other being what is considered the "nice" part of our county. As far as race goes its about 60-70% white, 25-30% black.

When I said nothing has change I ment as far as rasism goes.  Nothing has changed as far as racism goes. Not to us. Whats your take on rasism Master ? Has it changed?

I'll start from the begining(again). When Africans were brought to the Americas, they were slaves(which means no rights whatsoever). Now, slavery is illegal, and all people are granted equal rights from the constitution. Theres quite a bit of change. Prior to the civil rights movements, they could be wrongly discriminated in public(ex: seperate water fountains, seperate restrooms, white only resturaunts). Now, that too, is illegal. I certainly believe racism has changed. Does that mean racism doesn't exist? Not by a longshot. There will always be racists as long as there are races to discriminate. Where exactly do you live? I can completely understand your take on racism if you live in an area filled with ignorant people who completely ignore the black community. I have relatives that live in an area in West Virginia similar to that.

By the way master I dont know what part of america you live in but I can honestly tell nothing has changed for my people around here. I cant say blacks are resonsible for racism.

...Erm... no.

Racism is the belief that race is the primary determining factor in characteristics. So, your statements that white people are anything, or black people are anything, are intrinsically flawed.

I'm opposed to white racists, but I'm also opposed to black colleges, affirmative action, public money in excess to minorities, and any other governmental financial aid that caters to a single race.

African Americans, and other minorities major problems aren't because of their race, so why try to solve a problem, based on parameters that are irrelevant? Their primary problems are socioeconomic. There are plenty of poor ignorant whites too, why not include them?

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Eddie_the_Hated

By the way master I dont know what part of america you live in but I can honestly tell nothing has changed for my people around here. I cant say blacks are resonsible for racism.

...Erm... no.

Racism is the belief that race is the primary determining factor in characteristics. So, your statements that white people are anything, or black people are anything, are intrinsically flawed.

I'm opposed to white racists, but I'm also opposed to black colleges, affirmative action, public money in excess to minorities, and any other governmental financial aid that caters to a single race.

African Americans, and other minorities major problems aren't because of their race, so why try to solve a problem, based on parameters that are irrelevant? Their primary problems are socioeconomic. There are plenty of poor ignorant whites too, why not include them?

But without affirmative action we wouldnt have Obamasiah. He went to a private school for free, because he's black. He went to Harvard, despite not having the grades, because he was black. He has never held a job not tax-payer funded or civil rights related. Hes the poster boy of having everything handed to him because of his race.

And MikayD, youre a moron. Blaming white people for "hating on your people"? Seriously, wtf? Look at black culture. Its ok to knock up women and run out on them (babies daddies), its cool to be a drug dealer and to spend more on rims than child support, but the second someone critisizes a black person theyre racist. You need to look at history, then watch the episode of the Boondocks called "Return of the King". MLK would be so disappointed in how the majority of black people act, thats not racism, thats a fact.

Its about time people quit blaming shit on race, most people dont care about race when it comes to black or white anymore, 9/11 made Muslims the most discriminated against people. And they dont get preferential enrollment and employment in exchange.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

Affirmative actions exits because black students don't have rich parents to buy their way.  Do you think Bush or McCain have higher IQs than Obama?  They're not even in the same league.

I'm watching the debate on CNN.  McCain is getting raped.

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And MikayD, youre a moron. Blaming white people for "hating on your people"?

Check your self dan I never said all whites hate blacks I just wanted to know what did my people do to deserve all this raceism. Yes I'll admit my people have there flaws that’s true but not all of us fall in that category hell not even half of us.
What you see on TV is some bull straight up.

Look at black culture. Its ok to knock up women and run out on them (babies daddies), its cool to be a drug dealer and to spend more on rims than child support

If this is all you see in my peoples culture than you my friend are what I would call ignorant.

Its about time people quit blaming shit on race, most people don’t care about race when it comes to black or white anymore,

I Don't know what world you live in where race doesn’t factor. Although stereo types do play a big role in this world and some of my people feed these stereo types.

Affirmative action exits because black students don't have rich parents to buy their way.

I can dig that agent but what about the poor white folks that live in the ghetto.

I'll start from the begining(again). When Africans were brought to the Americas, they were slaves(which means no rights whatsoever). Now, slavery is illegal, and all people are granted equal rights from the constitution. There is quite a bit of change. Prior to the civil rights movements, they could be wrongly discriminated in public(ex: separate water fountains, separate restrooms, white only resturaunts). Now, that too, is illegal. I certainly believe racism has changed. Does that mean racism doesn't exist? Not by a longshot. There will always be racists as long as there are races to discriminate. Where exactly do you live? I can completely understand your take on racism if you live in an area filled with ignorant people who completely ignore the black community. I have relatives that live in an area in West Virginia similar to that.

I agree with you on this one Master. I live in Kansas City Missouri this town is one of the slowest growing towns in the use the last state to turn against slavery. The things some people say to blacks and my Latino brothers are just down right wild.
You would be shocked at what they say and how loud they say it. I had a police man pull me over and I ask what I can do for you. He said just give me your papers so he comes back to the car and I ask why did you pull me over. The cop and his partner said because you were black and you were riding 4 deep with a white guy in the car. So I started to think how I should reply. I simply asked if we were going to jail and he said no you guys are fine and gave me my papers back and we drove away. As we drove away the car got very quiet and I mean quiet no one knew what to say. Here we are all going out to bowl and holla at the ladies and this crap happens. Fucks up your night in a cold way.
My white home boy was so bent out of shape he decided to go home that night.

This is the type of stuff I see every day. Oh and don't get me started on how and what they say to my iraqy brothers and sisters. Here's the thing I only get this type of treatment from white people and some black people Yeah my people can be a trip some time. I really just don’t get it.

Yo I'm sleepy I check back later and  by the way I am glad we can talk like adults to bad we cant talk like adults when it comes to the consoles. PS3 Rocks Crap Box SUCKS lmao Merry Christmas.

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Eddie_the_Hated


How? Sure, he's charismatic, and he's a great speechwriter, but how are his policies going to help?

I couldn't care less about either candidates policies. I probably should because America is the backbone of the world economy, something that's been driven home and then some in the past 12 months... but i don't. It's more about what Obama represents. Let congress deal with policies and proposals, that's what it exists for. But America electing a black man? It would speak volumes.

mickayd2


Why do so many White Americans hate my people?

My people have come so far

White Americans 

I feel like blowing white Americans up

white folks

white woman

I can't wait until Jesus comes back

I don't dislike white people

my people around here

I'll admit my people have there flaws

my peoples culture

my iraqy brothers and sisters

white people

white people

white people

white people

white people

white people

white people

white people

Uh huh...

mickayd2


It’s like we are 3rd world people

...?

You're not American. You're African. From "The Motherland" remember?

Well, most of Africa does hold 3rd world status. You are 3rd world people. But then, what difference should that make to anybody? If you don't consider yourself to be from a 3rd world country, ...how do you percieve yourself? and how would you treat somebody from a 3rd world country?

mickayd2


This hatred is one of the reason why I don't date white woman that and my wife won't let me.

Your wife won't let you date white women?

Wow. What a bitch...

Agent Ghost


Affirmative actions exits because black students don't have rich parents to buy their way.  Do you think Bush or McCain have higher IQs than Obama?  They're not even in the same league.

I'm watching the debate on CNN.  McCain is getting raped.

Bush isn't stupid, but he isn't anywhere near as smart as Obama. McCain is just a moron.

mickayd2


my Latino brothers

my iraqy brothers and sisters

Do you see your problem?

I can dig that agent but what about the poor white folks that live in the ghetto.

I wasn't trying to make a case for affirmative action.  It's a rotten solution.  That was my response to Dan who made it sound like social inequality started with affirmative action.

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I couldn't care less about either candidates policies. I probably should because America is the backbone of the world economy, something that's been driven home and then some in the past 12 months... but i don't. It's more about what Obama represents. Let congress deal with policies and proposals, that's what it exists for. But America electing a black man? It would speak volumes.

I can understand that from your perspective. Congress has a far bigger impact on your economic standing than the POTUS does.

Sure, it would speak volumes... so Elect Bob Barr. I'm not in total agreement with his policies, but at the very least, I know he won't take any foolhardy economic decisions. I'd rather have a lame duck than a dismal failure any day.

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Affirmative action was put into place to counteract the effects of slavery, and the lack of education and economic power before the civil rights movement.  It may have done some good, but I believe it has outlived it's usefulness and needs to be shelved.  The black community is being hand-held at this point, and it's time to let go and learn to walk on our own.  Continuing to enable people to rely on race to get ahead is only hurting the black community, and stifles true growth.

I'm not saying it's easy, but it's time.

Your wife won't let you date white women?

Wow. What a bitch...

Man why must you call my wife a bitch. Your going to far nitro. I would have never disrespect you or yours like that.

Any way I think something is wrong with the quote system.  Fix you jew bastard.

Me being from another country has little to do with it. People dont know I'm not from america until they walk in my house.
All I know is america my son and my wife are both americans. Oh I cant wait for obama to win the election what type of change  would this bring.

Your wife lets you date black women?

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People dont know I'm not from america until they walk in my house.
All I know is america my son and my wife are both americans.

You're as African as I am Welsh and Irish.

I don't expect my country to dole out handouts to me because "my people" are short little bastards from all those years in coal mines, nor do I expect reparations for racist actions and remarks made against "my people" because of my Irish heritage.

"Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism.  It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man's genetic lineage -- the notion that a man's intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry.  Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors.  

Racism claims that the content of a man's mind (not his cognitive apparatus, but its content) is inherited; that a man's convictions, values and character are determined before he is born, by physical forces beyond his control.  This is the caveman's version of the doctrine of innate ideas -- or of inherited knowledge -- which has been thoroughly refuted by philosophy and science.  Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes.  It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of animals, but not between animals and men."

-Ayn Rand

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Affirmative action isn't just focused on counteracting institutionalized racism, but also institutionalized sexism.  Research shows that women still make, on average, less money for equivalent work than men do. 

The whole "let's just pretend like everything's cool now" argument for doing away with affirmative action is flawed.  Clearly the various "isms" are still malevolent and powerful forces within the world.

Someone was describing this attitude to me recently.  They likened it to an ongoing poker game.  For years the old racist, sexist guy is cheating his ass off and winning every single hand.  Later on, the older people die and their kids take their places.  Now the kid of the old racist, sexist guy says "I'm not gonna cheat like my old man did.  From here on, everything is fair."  But he's still got almost all the chips.  That's what's known as 'privilege' and to varying degrees a lot of people are completely unaware or unwilling to admit that they have it.  It may not be through any wrongdoing of their own but it exists and it influences situations in many ways, some obvious and many less so. 

The playing field is not level.  It never has been.  Affirmative action is a flawed but necessary mechanism because there are bigots in positions of power and influence who continue to exert their bigotry, oftentimes in hidden ways these days -- and oftentimes in broad daylight, as with discrimination against lesbians and gays.

If you've seen the last debate this video is hilarious.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=HfysR59gEGQ&feature=related


Somewhat unrelated but funny as fuck:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/969623/
part 1

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/1003086/
part 2

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mikayd2

Your wife won't let you date white women?

Wow. What a bitch...

Man why must you call my wife a bitch. Your going to far nitro. I would have never disrespect you or yours like that.

 
Bububu... she won't let you date white women!

White women are hotter than black women. Especially the Czech ones.

mikayd2


Oh I cant wait for obama to win the election what type of change  would this bring.

Internal change? I wouldn't expect anything too drastic.

Eddie_the_Hated


You're as African as I am Welsh and Irish.

I don't expect my country to dole out handouts to me because "my people" are short little bastards from all those years in coal mines, nor do I expect reparations for racist actions and remarks made against "my people" because of my Irish heritage.

I'm pretty sure he spent much of his life in Africa, then moved to the US. I could be wrong, but he's talked about "coming over" before so i got the impression he was an immigrant.

So you that strongly support affirmative action? How do white people "have all the chips"? If you come from a rich family youre going to whatever school you want anyway, most likely be able to get a good paying job through connections through your rich family or that you made at your expensive private school. Its not rich people that are being passed-over by affirmative action, its middle-class and poor people that are, people who in no way had any more "chips" than anyone else.

My ancestors were for the most part Irish, they didnt own any slaves. Hell, they barely owned anything. They came over on a boat like the rest of the poor people, were conscripted into the Union Army, and then went back to the slums with the rest of the Irish people.

My family lives in a middle-class suburb, my dad makes 60K a year working at a company that does something with ceramic engineering, and my step-mother works part-time at a jewlery store. With 2 little brothers, my parents cant afford to send my to private schools, and could only help with college, not pay in full. So if I were to be passed over for grants, tuition assistance, or anything similar based on the color of my skin and not based on factors such as GPA, test scores, etc., how would that be right? Because I wasnt born into a race that was enslaved?

FACT: No person who was a slave in the US is alive today.
FACT: Any person in the US of African decent has no right to bitch about what didnt happen to them.
FACT: Most of Africa is nothing more than a cespool of famine, disease, war, and poverty. Seems like in the end it worked out for everyone in the US.


And for the record, people should only be divided into 3 groups not based on race. Intelligent/capable, ignorant/stupid, and muslims. But we wont get into that.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

immortaldanmx


And for the record, people should only be divided into 3 groups not based on race. Intelligent/capable, ignorant/stupid, and muslims/Jews. But we wont get into that.

Fixed.

Why are you grouping Islam with Judaism? Theyre hardly the same religion.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

immortaldanmx


Why are you grouping Islam with Judaism? Theyre hardly the same religion.

Not Judaism, just Jews in general.

I wasn't referring to Muslims as in Arabic people though, I meant it as a religion.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

Zoy, I like the analogy, and I see where you're coming from, but I see it a little different.  Using your poker metaphor, it's all good to try to redistribute the chips, but if the chip leader is the best player of the game, the other folks at the table won't keep the chips until they are able to win the chips themselves.

Instead of affirmative action, education should be our primary focus.  Black kids are usually forced to attend public schools in the inner city.  Those schools serve one purpose, and that is to create good little workers.  Not leaders, nor business owners, but mental slaves.  Assembly line laborers.  Of course there are a lot of issues that contribute to the plight of black people in America, but I think education should be the number one priority for a better future.

Chee Saw


Zoy, I like the analogy, and I see where you're coming from, but I see it a little different.  Using your poker metaphor, it's all good to try to redistribute the chips, but if the chip leader is the best player of the game, the other folks at the table won't keep the chips until they are able to win the chips themselves.

Instead of affirmative action, education should be our primary focus.  Black kids are usually forced to attend public schools in the inner city.  Those schools serve one purpose, and that is to create good little workers.  Not leaders, nor business owners, but mental slaves.  Assembly line laborers.  Of course there are a lot of issues that contribute to the plight of black people in America, but I think education should be the number one priority for a better future.

Education or lack of, is the cause of the plight of everyone, of every race and background.

I like the idea of instead of affirmative action spend the money on education. And by money I mean the money used to hire EO Reps and the like. Because truth is, not only are black people are suffering in inner cities, everyone is. Also the media should stop using rappers and gangster stereotypes when blacks are portrayed. Its about time race is a non-issue, but programs like affirmative action will only keep race an issue.

"It aint about black or white cause we're human"-Tupac Amaru Shakur

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

Affirmative action isn't just focused on counteracting institutionalized racism, but also institutionalized sexism.  Research shows that women still make, on average, less money for equivalent work than men do. 

Would you agree that, as a whole though, Affirmitive Action positively impacts African Americans more than it does women?

On a second note, the statistics you're referring to are easily misinterpreted.

The studies performed that reflect an age gap are representative of the median earnings of both men and women who clock in for 32 hours or more a week, regardless of where they work, or at what level.

It doesn't compare men and women who have equal careers, education, or tenure, simply the aggregate of both sexes.

The statistics are rather misleading, because more oft than not, they are posted without proper context. Most pieces fail to report that more women choose lower-paying professions than men, that women enter and exit the workplace at a higher rate than men, that according to OSHA and the NADL, 95% of the 25 most hazardous jobs are performed by men, and 95% of the least hazardous jobs are performed by women, or that women work fewer hours on average, than men, due to many women's position as primary caregiver of their children.

That's not to say that gender discrimination in the workplace doesn't exist, but it's esitmated that at least half, if not more of that pay discrepancy is based on the reasons listed above.

If you have some more detailed research, or some more definitive research, I'd be glad to see it though. That's my conclusion, from the limited time I've spent studying wage discrepancy.

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FACT: No person who was a slave in the US is alive today.
FACT: Any person in the US of African decent has no right to bitch about what didnt happen to them.
FACT: Most of Africa is nothing more than a cespool of famine, disease, war, and poverty. Seems like in the end it worked out for everyone in the US.
 

 
I had this long ass post but something happened with my pc and it got deleted. Your just an Ignorant white boy so there’s no need to waste my time. Majik was right you are a moron so back to the red button well blue button. IGNORANCE AT ITS BEST.

Bububu... she won't let you date white women!
White women are hotter than black women. Especially the Czech ones.

 
No to me I like my woman thick very thick starting at 150lbs and up I might take a 135 but Czech woman sure are sexy like no other.  It’s not that my wife wont let me date white woman. She wont let me date any woman and I think it’s unfair but what can I do kill her?
 
Oh and I hate the word immigrant and no you cannot call me that.

You're as African as I am Welsh and Irish.
 

 
I’m straight from the motherland I don’t know if I can get any more African than that. But my son is all American so is the wife.  Oh and eddie I think  you are a smart little bastard.   
 

Instead of affirmative action, education should be our primary focus.  Black kids are usually forced to attend public schools in the inner city.  Those schools serve one purpose, and that is to create good little workers.  Not leaders, nor business owners, but mental slaves.  Assembly line laborers.  Of course there are a lot of issues that contribute to the plight of black people in America, but I think education should be the number one priority for a better future.
 

 
That can be said for anybody that lives within the city but it is very true for black kids.

Would you agree that, as a whole though, Affirmitive Action positively impacts African Americans more than it does women?

Actually from what I've heard it's white women who have benefited the most from Affirmative Action.  But I'll have to ask around as to the sources of that assertion.

Regarding your other points, I would direct you to this 2007 study published by the American Association of University Women Educational Foundation, "Behind the Pay Gap."    Obviously they set out to argue that the wage gap exists, and that it is based on sexism -- but they do acknowledge and address many of your points.

One year out of college, women working full time earn only 80 percent as much as their male colleagues earn. Ten years after graduation, women fall farther behind, earning only 69 percent as much as men earn. Controlling for hours, occupation, parenthood, and other factors normally associated with pay, college-educated women still earn less than their male peers earn.

Individuals can, however, make choices that can greatly enhance their earnings potential. Choosing to attend college and completing a college degree have strong positive effects on earnings, although all college degrees do not have the same effect. The selectivity of the college attended and the choice of a major also affect later earnings. Many majors remain strongly dominated by one gender. Female students are concentrated in fields associated with lower earnings, such as education, health, and psychology. Male students dominate the higher-paying fields: engineering, mathematics, and physical sciences. Women and men who majored in “male-dominated” subjects earn more than do those who majored in “female dominated” or “mixed-gender” fields. For example, one year after graduation, the average female education major working full time earns only 60 percent as much as the average female engineering major working full time earns.

The choice of major is not the full story, however. As early as one year after graduation, a pay gap is found between women and men who had the same college major. In education, a female-dominated major, women earn 95 percent as much as their male colleagues earn. In biological sciences, a mixed-gender major, women earn only 75 percent as much as men earn. Likewise in mathematics—a male dominated major—women earn only 76 percent as much as men earn. Female students cannot simply choose a major
that will allow them to avoid the pay gap.

Early career choices, most prominently occupational choices, also play a role in the gender pay gap. While the choice of major is related to occupation, the relationship is not strict. For example, some mathematics majors choose to teach, while others work in business or computer science. One year after graduation, women who work in computer science, for instance, earn over 37 percent more than do women who are employed in education or administrative, clerical, or legal support occupations. Job sector also affects earnings. Women are more likely than men to work in the nonprofit and local government sectors, where wages are typically lower than those in the for-profit and federal government sectors.

The division of labor between parents appears to be similar to that of previous generations. Motherhood and fatherhood affect careers differently. Mothers are more likely than fathers (or other women) to work part time, take leave, or take a break from the work force—factors that negatively affect wages. Among women who graduated from college in 1992–93, more than one-fifth (23 percent) of mothers were out of the work force in 2003, and another 17 percent were working part time. Less than 2 percent of fathers were out
of the work force in 2003, and less than 2 percent were working part time. On average, mothers earn less than women without children earn, and both groups earn less than men earn.

Personally my initial response to the explanation that women earn less than men due to the fact that they often take leaves of absence to give birth and raise children is simply that, it just sounds like women are doing a lot more work for a lot less pay.  Why should women be penalized monetarily for taking on one of the most important jobs in society?  To assert that women deserve less pay because they took a leave of absence makes it sound like they were just relaxing and taking a vacation when in fact they were actually taking on more work.

Zoy, I like the analogy, and I see where you're coming from, but I see it a little different. Using your poker metaphor, it's all good to try to redistribute the chips, but if the chip leader is the best player of the game, the other folks at the table won't keep the chips until they are able to win the chips themselves.

I think that's a good point.  And it just leads me to believe that peoples' lives shouldn't be based around gambling.  I'm not just being flippant in saying that, either.  Just look at the mess that the economy is in.  I think capitalism should be heavily regulated, and certain fundamental necessities like health care and all levels of education should be accessible for free (primarily by diverting the majority of military spending directly to health care and education).  Also, a lot of what are regarded as crimes (e.g., drug addiction and subsequent property crimes related to addiction) need to be regarded as health care issues first and foremost.

I agree with your point about education, but a great education alone will not get a lot of people out of the circumstances they are caught within until capitalism and various forms of "isms" are reined in.  I recently did a series of interviews with incarcerated women here in Washington state.  All of them were extremely intelligent and many were very eloquent and articulate in their understanding, analysis and critique of the system they were caught up in.  I thought some of them could be college professors, had I not been sitting in a building in the middle of a prison.  But knowing exactly what is going on is still not the magical key to changing your life around -- there are powerfully destructive forces ingrained in government and private sector business, and in our economic system.  So, Affirmative Action is not an ideal solution but I have yet to hear any better ideas to address these factors and I definitely don't think just getting rid of it at this point is going to somehow make everyone in positions of power fair and equitable, and have everyone from an oppressed background have an equal shot at living up to their potential.

mikayd2

FACT: No person who was a slave in the US is alive today.
FACT: Any person in the US of African decent has no right to bitch about what didnt happen to them.
FACT: Most of Africa is nothing more than a cespool of famine, disease, war, and poverty. Seems like in the end it worked out for everyone in the US.

I had this long ass post but something happened with my pc and it got deleted. Your just an Ignorant white boy so there’s no need to waste my time. Majik was right you are a moron so back to the red button well blue button. IGNORANCE AT ITS BEST.

Bububu... she won't let you date white women!
White women are hotter than black women. Especially the Czech ones.

No to me I like my woman thick very thick starting at 150lbs and up I might take a 135 but Czech woman sure are sexy like no other.  It’s not that my wife wont let me date white woman. She wont let me date any woman and I think it’s unfair but what can I do kill her?

Oh and I hate the word immigrant and no you cannot call me that.

You're as African as I am Welsh and Irish.

I’m straight from the motherland I don’t know if I can get any more African than that. But my son is all American so is the wife.  Oh and eddie I think  you are a smart little bastard.   

Instead of affirmative action, education should be our primary focus.  Black kids are usually forced to attend public schools in the inner city.  Those schools serve one purpose, and that is to create good little workers.  Not leaders, nor business owners, but mental slaves.  Assembly line laborers.  Of course there are a lot of issues that contribute to the plight of black people in America, but I think education should be the number one priority for a better future.

That can be said for anybody that lives within the city but it is very true for black kids.

Did you miss something? Majik called YOU ignorant. What point of that statement do you want to argue? That there is still a former slave alive? That the majority of Africa isnt 3rd world and plagued by problems? Those both seem to be true statements. And white boy? You really shouldnt talk to someone with most likely double your IQ like that, fucking foreigner.

I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.