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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 00:03
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Nitro


Obviously you guys don't know the trouble Shenmue III has caused Kikizo... or the amount of Shenmue related shit we've had to put up with in these forums.

Shenmue isn't commercially viable... unless they sell it to us. We can make even the most pathetic license commercially viable.


Yes, I'm so sorry for all of the Shenmue related shit that we have given you over the years. Despite the fact that Doree was caught lying through his fucking teeth about Shenmue 3 being "right around the corner," (in an attempt to haul Shenmue fans into this shit-hole of a gaming website) and subsequently backpeddalled like nobody's business (in a pathetic attempt to save face, which ultimately failed anyway.) Think before you post nonsensical gibberish, chap.

I'm shocked at how many underage, illiterate pricks plague the Kikizo boards; if you don't want to read this stuff, don't open up the fucking topic. Do you not realise that you are creating a gigantic shit-storm of hypocrisy by "crying and whining" about the people posting these topics?

I'm sure this post will be moderated by some butt-hurt faggot that can't face facts, but whatever.


Wow. Seriously, Shenmue is fucking garbage and doesn't deserve to see the light of day. "Oh noez he teh lied about a game taht every1 knowz izn't gunna teh happen!!!1!!!". Why don't you do something more productive with your life, like cry for a new Battletoads game? As for thinking before you post, look at the date of this thread, moron. Its a week old, why bring it back?

To my knowledge, no regular members on this board are under 16, and with the exception of MikayD and the people who didn't learn English as their first language, who is illiterate?

And how are we making a "shit-storm of hypocrisy" by saying we don't want this useless thread on our forum?

Moderated? For all the trash you talk about Kikizo, you don't know shit about how the forums are dealt with do you?


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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 00:18
MikayD is like 30
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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 00:30
mastachefbkw


XenuChris


Nitro


Obviously you guys don't know the trouble Shenmue III has caused Kikizo... or the amount of Shenmue related shit we've had to put up with in these forums.

Shenmue isn't commercially viable... unless they sell it to us. We can make even the most pathetic license commercially viable.


Yes, I'm so sorry for all of the Shenmue related shit that we have given you over the years. Despite the fact that Doree was caught lying through his fucking teeth about Shenmue 3 being "right around the corner," (in an attempt to haul Shenmue fans into this shit-hole of a gaming website) and subsequently backpeddalled like nobody's business (in a pathetic attempt to save face, which ultimately failed anyway.) Think before you post nonsensical gibberish, chap.

I'm shocked at how many underage, illiterate pricks plague the Kikizo boards; if you don't want to read this stuff, don't open up the fucking topic. Do you not realise that you are creating a gigantic shit-storm of hypocrisy by "crying and whining" about the people posting these topics?

I'm sure this post will be moderated by some butt-hurt faggot that can't face facts, but whatever.


Wow. Seriously, Shenmue is fucking garbage and doesn't deserve to see the light of day. "Oh noez he teh lied about a game taht every1 knowz izn't gunna teh happen!!!1!!!". Why don't you do something more productive with your life, like cry for a new Battletoads game? As for thinking before you post, look at the date of this thread, moron. Its a week old, why bring it back


Yes, trivialise my opinion, that will make yours look superior! Come back when you aren't thick as shit, please.

mastachefbkw
To my knowledge, no regular members on this board are under 16, and with the exception of MikayD and the people who didn't learn English as their first language, who is illiterate?


You could have fooled me, mate. You're all acting like whiny little kids; half of which have never heard of punctuation.

mastachefbkw

And how are we making a "shit-storm of hypocrisy" by saying we don't want this useless thread on our forum?


I'll spell it out for you, seeing as apparently you are unable to read for yourself:

You people: "stop complanin u fukkin coks u r gay"

Me: "But you're complaining about them complaining... are you mentally spasticated by any chance? And get a fucking spell-checker while you're at it."

Did you take it all in this time, cupcake?

mastachefbkw
Moderated? For all the trash you talk about Kikizo, you don't know shit about how the forums are dealt with do you?


Nope. And I can honestly say that I'm proud of that.

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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 00:43
Wow another Shenmue thread... why do they always come here?  None of us care about that shitty series.  As if that wasn't obvious at this point, he still harrases us with his tripe. 
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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 01:19
Agent Ghost


Wow another Shenmue thread... why do they always come here?


Even though I love the Shenmue games, I have always asked myself this question.  Kikizo seems like a huge magnet for them.

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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 01:32


Yes, trivialise my opinion, that will make yours look superior! Come back when you aren't thick as shit, please.

Shenmue is garbage, if you don't like what I'm saying, you probably won't like what half the forum will say. Perhaps you should try the shenmue forums?




You could have fooled me, mate. You're all acting like whiny little kids; half of which have never heard of punctuation.

Really now? I'm not the one who made an account just to bash a forum that no more than 50 people even know about. So, where exactly does the grammar cracks come in? Relevance, please?




I'll spell it out for you, seeing as apparently you are unable to read for yourself:

You people: "stop complanin u fukkin coks u r gay"

Me: "But you're complaining about them complaining... are you mentallyspasticated by any chance? And get a fucking spell-checker while you'reat it."

Did you take it all in this time, cupcake?

That has to be the fucking stupidest argument I've ever heard. I mean really. Since when is it hypocrisy to tell someone to stop complaining and making ten thousand threads about a game that isn't/never will come out?  And don't go on about the definition of hypocrisy, I get it,  but who the fuck could believe it applies here? And uh... by the way "spasticated"? Making up words, but you have the nerve to call out our grammar?


Nope. And I can honestly say that I'm proud of that.

Good for you, now hurry on to the Gamespot forums before you miss something important.
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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 01:53
mastachefbkw

Shenmue is garbage, if you don't like what I'm saying, you probably won't like what half the forum will say. Perhaps you should try the shenmue forums


I'm not here to discuss my opinion on Shenmue. I'm here for the reasons I stated earlier. Try reading next time, chap.

mastachefbkw
Really now? I'm not the one who made an account just to bash a forum that no more than 50 people even know about. So, where exactly does the grammar cracks come in? Relevance, please?


I made an account to point out how ridiculous you people are; last time I checked, ridiculing =/= whining. I never said you're all illiterate, now, did I? So stop trying to pin me up as a grammar Nazi for an easy get-out-of-having-my-arse-handed-to-me-in-a-debate card, please.

mastachefbkw
That has to be the fucking stupidest argument I've ever heard. I mean really. Since when is it hypocrisy to tell someone to stop complaining and making ten thousand threads about a game that isn't/never will come out?  And don't go on about the definition of hypocrisy, I get it,  but who the fuck could believe it applies here? And uh... by the way "spasticated"? Making up words, but you have the nerve to call out our grammar?

 
You're complaining about people complaining. That's hypocrisy. I really don't know how to simplify it further. I've already pointed out how it applies here, again, try reading. "Spasticated" is a slang term; using a slang term isn't the same as not knowing how to form a sentence. Also, again, stop trying to pin me up as a grammar Nazi. I made one off-hand comment about the illiteracy of some people and here you are with your little panties in a bunch over it. Hilarious.

mastachefbkw
Good for you, now hurry on to the Gamespot forums before you miss something important.


You want me to leave so soon? No thanks. Ridiculing you and your deluded little mind is far more fun than trolling Gamespot.
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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 02:11

You want me to leave so soon? No thanks. Ridiculing you and your deluded little mind is far more fun than trolling Gamespot.


Figures.
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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 05:23
Yeah , we are all a bunch of whining hypocrites . Now GTFO . Its times like these i wish that kikizo was moderated ..

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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 06:17
The topic of a Shenmue petition is not new to Kikizo, and has been presented time and time again here on the Kikizo Forums. Threads like this are bumped and reposted frequently, and with no new information or details presented in any of the supposed "updates".

It's comparable to posting a clipping from a 2003 copy of the Wall-Street Journal every month for years at a time. The information is old, outdated and to the average larger demographic, irrelevant. If nothing else, it's inconsiderate.

All issues aside, this is an incredibly small community for a website that reaches two-million unique users monthly, and If your intent is to send a message to Sega, why such a vested interest in less than twenty signatures from a relatively off-the-map forum?


I'm sure this post will be moderated by some butt-hurt faggot that can't face facts, but whatever.

The Kikizo forums moderate and close threads with hardcore racism, pornography, or illegal activity... that's it.

Explain to me this fascist forum-state you're so sure exists, and while you're at it, why don't you do me a favor and spend a short amount of time with our online community before making accusatory and abrasive statements belittling the intellectual level of it's userbase.


butt-hurt

Fantastic! As well as having a rude and caustic personality, you appear to be a Channer! First impressions really do say a lot, don't they Chris?

Do me a favor, and take your unwarranted spleen back to 4Chan, or ShenmueCampaign, or wherever it is your primarily hail from, and direct it into something constructive, like petitioning, or recruiting new members... headlining a screamo band maybe?

You have succeeded in one regard, and that is presenting a complete and total air of illegitimacy and immaturity in regards to the ShenmueDojo community.

While I believe I speak for the entire Kikizo community when I say that we would be more than welcome any polite and intelligent newcomers to our forum from yours, your abrasive nature has left far from an impressive impression upon the users here.

If you want to make a point, especially as a new member to a community, take the time to present a decisive argument, free of verbal-bashing, swearing and personal-attacks.

With all this being said XenuChris, I feel you should know. I'm not illiterate, I'm certainly not a prick, but what may surprise you is that I am sixteen...

underage, as you stated. I took the liberty of visiting your website, and board, and from my observation, have managed to demonstrate a higher level of maturity, poignancy and articulacy in the last quarter page than the majority of the users registered to your board present in their entire time involved in your community.  

Take time to prepare rebuttals before making wild accusations about others community of choice, because believe it or not, you are not the only guy on the internet with a keyboard and a brain working in-tandem, and some of us will be there to stop the buck when it comes our way.


I came here to do three things: to point out the incredible ignorance of the tool that I originally quoted, to point out the award-worthy hypocrisy of the various morons throwing a hissy-fit over this topic and finally, to let the topic-creator and 2ndopp know that I support them, and that I take my hat off to them for their incredible diligence in the face of such retarded arse-hattery.

Actually Chris, you will have to forgive me for correcting you there, but that is absolutely not what you came here for, at least that's not what you stated to your buddies on ShenmueCampaign

Allow me to quote you for a moment, sans condensation, edit or retraction:


Check out my debut on the
dick-head-infested shit-hole that is: Kikizo.com 


Your presence here is to incise, to posture, and to pick a fight. To give the illusion of anything more is simply disingenuous.

If you have anything further to say to me, feel free to respond, rebut, or apologize at eddiethehated@gmail.com. I for one won't be the one to further perpetuate what I believe will turn into a personal vendetta argument, and I strongly suggest that all other address their concerns in a non-hostile, and respectful way, or simply let the topic drift from the front.

Regards,

Eddie

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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 06:36

I never said you're all illiterate, now, did I? So stop trying to pin me up as a grammar Nazi for an easy

And I never accused you of saying it. I simply asked who you thought was illiterate. Maybe you should learn to read yourself.




You want me to leave so soon? No thanks. Ridiculing you and your deluded little mind is far more fun than trolling Gamespot.

Sounds like a date...ahem...cupcake?

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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 07:22
Oi... damn it eddie you beat me too it! I was wondering if anyone was gonna take note of that..

Anyways, masta just don't worry about it and let it go. This will be my last post in this thread.


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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 08:34

 
Hi Chris,
I think we got off to a bad start. Just because you've single handedly proved my initial point and strengthened my argument against allowing threads like this on Kikizo, ...that doesn't mean we can't be friends.

Can we be friends... you silly, scrawny, floppy-haired fuck?

I mean come on, ...you're an obviously well educated grown man. You must see that campaigning for Shenmue III is ultimately going to prove fruitless!? How can you possibly expect us to take you seriously when you're leading a campaign for a game that has undoubtedly been deemed commercially non-viable in the current marketplace?

Do you honestly expect a company that just 5 months ago reported a loss of $499 million (USD) to put $80 million + (not including marketing) into Shenmue 3?
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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 12:04
Eddie to be made lord god of Kikizo and Nitro to become his bitch.
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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 13:13
Eddie_the_Hated


With all this being said XenuChris, I feel you should know. I'm not illiterate, I'm certainly not a prick, but what may surprise you is that I am sixteen...


I came here to do three things: to point out the incredible ignorance of the tool that I originally quoted, to point out the award-worthy hypocrisy of the various morons throwing a hissy-fit over this topic and finally, to let the topic-creator and 2ndopp know that I support them, and that I take my hat off to them for their incredible diligence in the face of such retarded arse-hattery.


Actually Chris, you will have to forgive me for correcting you there, but that is absolutely not what you came here for, at least that's not what you stated to your buddies on ShenmueCampaign

Allow me to quote you for a moment, sans condensation, edit or retraction:


Check out my debut on the
dick-head-infested shit-hole that is: Kikizo.com 


Your presence here is to incise, to posture, and to pick a fight. To give the illusion of anything more is simply disingenuous.



Clearly, this teenager is correct.

Johnny Jiron


Anyways, masta just don't worry about it and let it go.


Yeah man. We all know why he came here...for attention and to pick a fight.
Nitro


I mean come on, ...you're an obviously well educated grown man.


Nitro i beg to differ. A Very immature boy.
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 13:26
alijay034


Eddie to be made lord god of Kikizo and Nitro to become his bitch.


I've said it before and i'll say it again... Eddie is the most important member of this forum. He was self-admittedly clueless when he first came here, now he's a wealth of knowledge... and he's only 16.

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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 27, 2008 14:49
I agree, Eddie is great here, and definetly very articulate!

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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 28, 2008 00:51
Eddie, after reading your long, long... oh-so unnecessarily long post, full-to-the-brim with redundant "look-at-me-I-actually-showed-up-for-English-class-in-school" pseudo-intellectualism, I have realised that you will be here replying to me long after I've forgotten having ever even ridiculed you and your spaz-tastic posts.

I'll ignore all of said redundant bullshit, and point out how very wrong the few points you actually made, are:

Eddie_the_Hated


The topic of a Shenmue petition is not new to Kikizo, and has been presented time and time again here on the Kikizo Forums. Threads like this are bumped and reposted frequently, and with no new information or details presented in any of the supposed "updates".

It's comparable to posting a clipping from a 2003 copy of the Wall-Street Journal every month for years at a time. The information is old, outdated and to the average larger demographic, irrelevant. If nothing else, it's inconsiderate.


Except for the fact that the topic isn't primarily about the Shenmue petition now is it? It's about the new, re-vamped Shenmue Campaign. Had you bothered to read it, rather than jump all over it with your unnecessary, witless bullshit, you would have known that. Your little analogy is cute, but as we've already establshed it's completely irrelevant, and kind of makes you look like a dumb ass.

Eddie_the_Hated
All issues aside, this is an incredibly small community for a website that reaches two-million unique users monthly, and If your intent is to send a message to Sega, why such a vested interest in less than twenty signatures from a relatively off-the-map forum?


Yes, ramble on and on about how the topic-creator's sole interest is to spread the petition! Seriously, that wasn't sarcasm, please do. It's quite hilarious. If you actually do bother to read it and apologise for your ignorance, I'll still give you the finger for being such a dick-head in the first place.

Eddie_the_Hated
The Kikizo forums moderate and close threads with hardcore racism, pornography, or illegal activity... that's it.

Explain to me this fascist forum-state you're so sure exists, and while you're at it, why don't you do me a favor and spend a short amount of time with our online community before making accusatory and abrasive statements belittling the intellectual level of it's userbase.


Holy shit-balls, you like to exaggerate don't you? I made one little comment about how my post might be deleted and suddenly I'm accusing this shitty forum of fascism? Maybe you need to exaggerate to form a proper (read: moronic) argument, but damn, it's really kind of pathetic.

Eddie_the_Hated
Fantastic! As well as having a rude and caustic personality, you appear to be a Channer! First impressions really do say a lot, don't they Chris?


I'm rude to dick-heads, like you. And what the fuck is a "Channer?" Please save the nerdy 'net terms for someone who A) gives a shit what some kid thinks of them and B) could give a flying fuck as to what they mean. Thank you.

Eddie_the_Hated
Do me a favor, and take your unwarranted spleen back to 4Chan, or ShenmueCampaign, or wherever it is your primarily hail from, and direct it into something constructive, like petitioning, or recruiting new members... headlining a screamo band maybe?


And I'm the rude one? Holy shit, you love a good ol' sip of hypocrisy every now and then, don't ya?

Eddie_the_Hated
You have succeeded in one regard, and that is presenting a complete and total air of illegitimacy and immaturity in regards to the ShenmueDojo community.


I've done this because some kid says so? Lol, 'kay. You seem to be under the impression that somebody (other than your silly little fans, here) actually gives a fuck about all of this silly "kikikizo commmooonity is bettar den shen campain lolol." I'm not representing a "community" you tool, I'm representing myself; again, save the nerdy insults for someone who actually gives a fuck.

Eddie_the_Hated
While I believe I speak for the entire Kikizo community when I say that we would be more than welcome any polite and intelligent newcomers to our forum from yours, your abrasive nature has left far from an impressive impression upon the users here.


Up until the point where I mention that I like Shenmue? And then you'd all throw a bitch-fit and cry and whine at me, like you are right now? Lol, 'kay. I insult people that act like fucking idiots. Don't act like a fucking idiot, and you won't get insulted. 'Kay?

Eddie_the_Hated
If you want to make a point, especially as a new member to a community, take the time to present a decisive argument, free of verbal-bashing, swearing and personal-attacks.


I've made my point, go and read it. Also, lol? So you're allowed to dish out insults left and right to Shenmue fans, and I'm not allowed to call you an ass-hat for doing so? Holy shit, I was kidding at first, but this hypocrisy really is award-worthy.

Eddie_the_Hated
With all this being said XenuChris, I feel you should know. I'm not illiterate, I'm certainly not a prick, but what may surprise you is that I am sixteen...


You being a prick is my opinion, and you're definitely a prick, in my opinion. So you're a snobby prick that's read a book or two, and you just happen to be a kid? Meh, I was 2/3rds right. What do I win?

Eddie_the_Hated
underage, as you stated. I took the liberty of visiting your website, and board, and from my observation, have managed to demonstrate a higher level of maturity, poignancy and articulacy in the last quarter page than the majority of the users registered to your board present in their entire time involved in your community.


Stop with the community crap. I'm speaking for myself. Insulting the people over at ShenmueWhatever really doesn't offend me; most of them are cocks anyway. I'm calling you out on your ignorance, and you insult a website I visit once every 3 months or so? Lol, good one, kiddo!

Eddie_the_Hated
Take time to prepare rebuttals before making wild accusations about others community of choice, because believe it or not, you are not the only guy on the internet with a keyboard and a brain working in-tandem, and some of us will be there to stop the buck when it comes our way.


Seriously, what got this "my commoonity vs urs" shit into your head? I'm talking about you and this shit-hole; websites I visit have no place in this debate. That's like me saying: "you don't like Shenmue? Fuck you, you browse Break.com occasionally! You dick!" It's pathetic, stop it. Actually don't, it's hilarious.

Eddie_the_Hated
Actually Chris, you will have to forgive me for correcting you there, but that is absolutely not what you came here for, at least that's not what you stated to your buddies on ShenmueCampaign

Allow me to quote you for a moment, sans condensation, edit or retraction:


Check out my debut on the
dick-head-infested shit-hole that is: Kikizo.com


Your presence here is to incise, to posture, and to pick a fight. To give the illusion of anything more is simply disingenuous.


Excuse me for a second, are you actually attempting to tell me what I came here to do? Lol! You're comedy gold, kid! I came here to do exactly what I said I came here to do. I can have a negative opinion of this site and still come here to point out just how retarded you people are, can't I? Try again, dick-head.

Eddie_the_Hated
If you have anything further to say to me, feel free to respond, rebut, or apologize at eddiethehated@gmail.com. I for one won't be the one to further perpetuate what I believe will turn into a personal vendetta argument, and I strongly suggest that all other address their concerns in a non-hostile, and respectful way, or simply let the topic drift from the front.

Regards,

Eddie


No thanks. I like ripping on you in public, so that others can get a good laugh from it. I mean, if you had any valid points and wasn't a pretentious little fucker, I'd think about it, but as it stands... no thanks, kiddo!

mastachefbkw

And I never accused you of saying it. I simply asked who you thought was illiterate. Maybe you should learn to read yourself.


You didn't accuse me of saying it, true, but there were implications, my friend. Anyway, to answer your question: the_shadowwolf, Vx Chemical. Happy now?

mastachefbkw

Sounds like a date...ahem...cupcake?


It's nice to know that I reduced your argument to this. I feel all warm and fuzzy inside now.

Nitro




Hi Chris,
I think we got off to a bad start. Just because you've single handedly proved my initial point and strengthened my argument against allowing threads like this on Kikizo, ...that doesn't mean we can't be friends.


Whose the dude that needs a hair cut and the ugly chick? Oh please God tell me that's not you! That would make this very easy, and very amusing. Also, I didn't prove your "point" at all. How the fuck did you work that one out?

Nitro
Can we be friends... you silly, scrawny, floppy-haired fuck?


By the looks of it mate, you're the silly, scrawny, floppy-haired fuck; and you have a fucking dinosaur next to you. Tell that bitch to wash her fucking face. That shit's rank!

Nitro
I mean come on, ...you're an obviously well educated grown man. You must see that campaigning for Shenmue III is ultimately going to prove fruitless!? How can you possibly expect us to take you seriously when you're leading a campaign for a game that has undoubtedly been deemed commercially non-viable in the current marketplace?


Leading? Since when was I leading this campaign? You delusional little fucker; stop pulling your arguments out of your arse. I think the ShenmueCampaign is pretty cool. You dick-heads verbally rape anyone that mentions Shenmue on this site 'cause of all the drama that lying prick Doree caused... so I'm telling you faggots where to stick it; it's not Shenmue fans' fault some dick-head lied to them now, is it? Also, yes, keep saying commercially non-viable over and over again, I'm sure you're impressing your mother!

Nitro
Do you honestly expect a company that just 5 months ago reported a loss of $499 million (USD) to put $80 million + (not including marketing) into Shenmue 3?


Yes, because $80 million is what Shenmue III would cost! You absolute tool, pull your head out of your ass. Shenmue originally cost $70 million due to the fact that they had to build the entire fucking game twice; once on the Saturn, once on the Dreamcast. Anyway, I'm not here to argue whether or not the Shenmue Campaign is worth the effort or not, I'm here to point out how retarded you people are; but please, keep side-tracking the topic-at-hand, it proves that you have nothing of worth to say.

the_shadowwolf

Clearly, this teenager is correct.


'Fraid not. Try reading.

the_shadowwolf
Yeah man. We all know why he came here...for attention and to pick a fight.


Is English not your first language, or are you actually retarded? And lol at "pick a fight."

the_shadowwolf
Nitro i beg to differ. A Very immature boy.


Yes, keep assuming I'm a child... if that makes you feel better about your life, go right ahead.
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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 28, 2008 01:28
Jesus christ what a train wreck.

First of all, please can we be a bit kinder to new members. There is no need for all these insults and absusive language, it is totally unacceptable no matter how long anyone has been posting here.

Second, I will give this campaign the benefit of the doubt, as it is well intentioned.

Third, just because Sega is unlikely to actually un-shelve this project and even more unlikely to put money behind finsihing full scale development on Shenmue 3, doesn't mean it is impossible for it to see release one day if there is enough demand. For example, someone else could take on the risk and co fund the pfoject. Whether it's another developer or co-publisher. Or more appealingly, Suzuki could leave and set up shop just like Naka and Miz did, and attempt to continue it that way. You never know. I mean I know for a fact that what Yuji Naka (Prope) is working on right now is in partnership with Sega. So do the math on that one. Why leave Sega and then make games for Sega anyway? It's politics.

On a related note, wait until you guys see gameplay footage of HEAVY RAIN on the PS3. You will think of Shenmue. No joke.


A reminder: no more insults and bullshit.
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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 28, 2008 03:53
(Little kid voice) But Adam...., I want to insult the obnoxious twat. Please. Pleeeeease.
I dont want to celebrate, I want to sell you hate.

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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 28, 2008 04:15
You just did.

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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 28, 2008 05:25
Just drop it guys. If there's something constructive coming out of all of this, a new thread may as well be started.

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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 28, 2008 07:57
Why I posted here:
I'm the one who runs Shenmue Myspace Campaign, not anyone else.  I work closely with Shenmue Dojo and Shenmuecampaign.org.  It saddens me that this site is known for Shenmue connections thru Adam, yet so many people here get ruffled when you mention Shenmue.  Unfortunately I don't think many people check out the sites and rub it off as "the same old petition".  I assure you we are trying to do something different here.  We've taken notes from the Nights fan site that got Sega to bring Nights back, and we are stepping it up a notch for Shenmue's sake.  Like those fans of Nights, we have portfolios of info to send Sega, like the fans that sent peanuts for jericho, we plan to mass send Toy capsules.  We are even planning fun demostrations at game events... even cosplay.  You may see a Lucky hit board or two at next years E3.  We are continuing to grow, the fans are there, we even have the American voice actor of Ryo joining in, giving us interviews and adding his name to the campaign.  I really thought I would find more people here that would want to fight for this, thats why i posted here.  Even if it's just a few that post here, every person counts.  I'm sorry that some people argue so much they blur what either side of the fence is atempting to acomplish.  It reminds me when I posted here a year ago about starting the campaign, and your forum member felt a need to rip me apart...

The $70 million quote maybe wrong:
While browsing segawebs news archive a ShenmueDojo member came across this news piece dated Dec 26, 1999:

"Sega of Japan has announced its production budget for Shenmue. Itmight have been more cost-effective to make a motion picture! Accordingto Sega, Shenmue's budget will tally up in the neighborhood of 7billion yen! (That's around $69 million USD to you and me...the budgetof a decent action flick, though less than most blockbusters.) Panicnot! Of that total, Shenmue Chapter 1: Yokosuka's share is only 3billion yes (or $29.5 USD). Of course, a large portion of those costsinclude the money spent to develop the revolutionary Shenmue gameengine which will benefit several of Shenmue's chapters, so it'll takeless for Sega to break even with each chapter they release. Daily Radarsays that the $69 million figure for the series is expected to includeall the approved sequels to date (5 so far, though Yu Suzuki plans 16total) as well as the advertising budget. Still, there is little doubtthat every Shenmue chapter needs to do exceptionally well in order forSega to recoup its investment."

Notice it says $29 million for Shenmue???  No one has asked Yu Suzuki how that $70 million really broke down.  If I manage to get an interview with him I intend to ask, or maybe Adam can if he still has the connections.  But we know for sure that Shenmue 3 should not cost $80 million.  The research is done, the story is done... how much more would it really take?

Shenmue not viable for today?@!
Are you kidding?  Why is Sega's game Yakuza so successful then? GTA?  People are clamoring for sandbox style games to break up this FPS world that sprung up around us.  If fact if Sega would just bring Yakuza to 360, I might do a little less yelling :) 

The fans are there and waiting. You can see this in the amount of people who jumped on our request to bring Shenmue back on Xbox Originals (A way to safely make back some money for Sega).  The official xbox forums have been blasted with 53 pages of POSITIVE comments, and over 760,000 views on our topic.


Will the campaign work?
Honestly, there is no way to know that.  I have hope it will, and we have had great reactions from the fans so far.  If you don't think I'm going about it right, by all means suggest ideas, help launch a project that you would want to be a part of.  But don't tell me not to do, I'm to stubborn.  I will continue it until each of our members ideas, and projects have been tried.

If you read this, thanks for listening,

2nd Opp, of Shenmue Myspace Campaign
http://www.myspace.com/legendofshenmue

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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 28, 2008 08:59
I pretty decent post 2ndOpp

I find it worrying that people care so much about a game though.

I want a sequell to LucasArts Outlwas but i dont go complaining about it.

I want a sequell to Psi Ops, but i dont go campaining about it.

I want sequels to The Longest Journey.... oh wait im getting those, nvm.

In any case good luck with your campaining, im sure if all the hardcore fans of shenmue bought 10 copies each the game would be viable

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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 28, 2008 09:37
Adam Doree


Jesus christ what a train wreck.

First of all, please can we be a bit kinder to new members. There is no need for all these insults and absusive language, it is totally unacceptable no matter how long anyone has been posting here.

Second, I will give this campaign the benefit of the doubt, as it is well intentioned.

Third, just because Sega is unlikely to actually un-shelve this project and even more unlikely to put money behind finsihing full scale development on Shenmue 3, doesn't mean it is impossible for it to see release one day if there is enough demand. For example, someone else could take on the risk and co fund the pfoject. Whether it's another developer or co-publisher. Or more appealingly, Suzuki could leave and set up shop just like Naka and Miz did, and attempt to continue it that way. You never know. I mean I know for a fact that what Yuji Naka (Prope) is working on right now is in partnership with Sega. So do the math on that one. Why leave Sega and then make games for Sega anyway? It's politics.

On a related note, wait until you guys see gameplay footage of HEAVY RAIN on the PS3. You will think of Shenmue. No joke.


A reminder: no more insults and bullshit.


Most of the forum users here have, at one time or another and for various reasons defended your highly questionable (some would say completely bogus) Shenmue 3 article. In the vast majority of cases it was because of the nature of these forums and the community we have here. An attack on Kikizo was seen as an attack of all of us - in a way.

So what happened was that we collectively decided that Shenmue topics in the forum were more hassle than they were worth, regardless of the OP's intentions.

Now, if you're only going to turn up here when somebody mentions your name... and/or in this case you're websites worst hour... and tell us how we should be conducting ourselves... then there's zero point in us mounting any kind of defence on Kikizo's bahalf - in these forums or elsewhere. This topic isn't exactly just going to disappear. It's going to follow you everywhere you go and will remain a black mark against the site until the 3rd game does hit shelves... maybe even after. I've lost count of how many Shenmue 3/Doree's a fucking liar!!! threads we've had to quash - just because any mention of the damn game ends up being a discussion over the credibility of this site and you it's owner/editor/whatever.

XenuChris has a point to make, and our reaction towards him so far has been an attempt to neutralise his argument. Because it happens to be an argument that holds weight, we're having to be overly hostile. It's a shame i have to explain it to you, ...but if you want to continue to court controversy then fine...

XenuChris, please accept my humple appologies... and welcome to Kikizo Forums :)



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Re:Shenmue Campaign (All Shenmue Fans Read) - Aug 28, 2008 12:47
This user did not come here to attack anyone but to try and tell us about a campaign he thought would be of interest. I have not trawled through all four pages of abuse but the first thing I saw in reply to him was "fuck off" which is simply OTT. I agree that the whole Shenmue 3 thing is a pain in the arse and possibly a black mark and one I refuse to discuss any further because I have said everything I can on the matter a hundred times over, but the rules of the forum are simple, don't be ****s to people.  Jesus. This forum never used to be like that.

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