MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam)

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MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 12, 2008 03:30

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RE: MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 12, 2008 03:38
Wow a pre-alpha demo and it looks like that.... AWESOME


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RE: MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 12, 2008 03:57
The cell being took advantage of.. and it runs Loverly!!!


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RE: MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 12, 2008 07:45
I liked the first one and this one seems to fix the faults caused by rushing the game. Most likely they will fix the slowdowns (or is it from the video?) and the shadows artifacting.
Now im excited and need a Motor Storm fix! brb

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RE: MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 12, 2008 08:01
The PS3 cannot do shadows well. Don' t look for them to be fixed.

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RE: MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 12, 2008 08:14
That sunset in the second part of the video is stunning, and this is only pre-alpha? Consider me seriously impressed.


The PS3 cannot do shadows well.

Why' s that?


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RE: MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 12, 2008 08:31
Why? Not sure as to the actual reason. But I' ve seen tons of PS3 games with shadows like that where the edges are all glitchy/twitchy and extremely jaggy. There probably is a work-around but it appears nobody has ever bothered.
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RE: MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 12, 2008 08:39
So, I' m concluding that shadows suffer from the same anti-aliasing issues that earlier PS3 titles and developers had? (Having to pick between high-res textures and AA).

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RE: MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 12, 2008 09:36
Aah, the 360 has the same issues with shadows that are clearly at a much lower resolution than the objects that are casting them. GTAIV has some kind of dithering/antialiasing effect going on but you can still make out the lower resolution shadow map through it. I don' t think it' s something that is significantly different between the PS3 and 360. Both the consoles have also tended to have realtime reflections that are rendered at lower resolution and/or lower framerate.

On topic: It looks like fun, but... very slow, doesn' t it? It needs more sense of speed.
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RE: MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 12, 2008 10:39


ORIGINAL: Eddie_the_Hated

So, I' m concluding that shadows suffer from the same anti-aliasing issues that earlier PS3 titles and developers had? (Having to pick between high-res textures and AA).


Not textures... HDR lighting.

It' s not that it' s impossible, it' s just not feasable because of memory bandwidth limitations. There are workarounds though like the NAO32 HDR that Team Ninja came up with. They essentially moved the rendering costs from memory to RSX' s shaders so that they could preserve bandwidth as well as utilize MSAA.

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RE: MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 12, 2008 10:50
Dam That' s Hot

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RE: MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 13, 2008 03:55


ORIGINAL: mikayd2

Dam That' s Hot


What is? This:


ORIGINAL: Nitro

Not textures... HDR lighting.

It' s not that it' s impossible, it' s just not feasable because of memory bandwidth limitations. There are workarounds though like the NAO32 HDR that Team Ninja came up with. They essentially moved the rendering costs from memory to RSX' s shaders so that they could preserve bandwidth as well as utilize MSAA.


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RE: MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 13, 2008 03:56
Yeah, ...thanks for stopping by Tiz.

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RE: MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 13, 2008 04:26

Why? Not sure as to the actual reason. But I' ve seen tons of PS3 games with shadows like that where the edges are all glitchy/twitchy and extremely jaggy. There probably is a work-around but it appears nobody has ever bothered.


Let' s face it, nobody' s going to have much time to notice the shadows in a game like Motorstorm are they?

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RE: MotorStorm gameplay (split-screen / cam) - May 13, 2008 04:29
Where dyu want me to hang my jacket?

It' s a bit hot now? or should I keep it on in case I have to go out again, not sure what time I' ll be back.



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I' m so bad, I haven' t even looked at the footage.... let me look at that now.

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