Well damn. I took off last night & I figured this thing would still be as I left it. Maybe another post from NitroMajik or Ghost... Ah well. On to the conversation.
Isn' t the service itself like an hour long? I dunno, ...i' ve never been.
Either way it' s fuc.king demented.
Depends on the preist. The one I' ve had for the majority of my life is at least relatively sensable, he never pushes an hour. Every so often, our pastor has a board meeting (Happens to be on the board of directors at Delta Dental), and we get some crotchety old codger who doesn' t shut up for an hour and a half. My personal all-time favorites though are the guest preists who take the entire time they should be preaching, and plug their christian magazine, or webcast, or whatever. Talk about funny.
Plus... Christians believe that Star Wars is Evil So if i had my way they' d all be hanged.
No, the broken Christians believe that Star Wars is evil.
The
real Christians recognize true evil when they see it, and believe that episodes I through III were delivered overnight-expedited from satan' s workshop.
Go on, disagree. I and II are debatable, but if you liked III I' ll have to disown you.
I' ll give them a fuc.king choice. Death by hanging or fuc.ked in the ass by monkeys???
" Y' know what? For a million? I' ll get f.ucked in the ass by a gorilla! And I' ll smile about it too. I' ll only get really pissed off when I find out Bobo over there' s making
two!."
Pretty much. I expect Heaven would be sparsely populated anyway. I don' t know many Christians who haven' t sinned...
Heaven isn' t for perfect people. Nobody' s perfect, and anybody who says otherwise is mentally ill, or a bigot.
...or can you just ask for forgiveness on your deathbed?
There' s a catch 22 there though. If you' re an atheist, you couldn' t care less about what' s going to happen when you die. You figure you' re worm food.
If on your deathbed, you come to the conclusion that you should ask for forgiveness, you' re not the atheist you say you are, and are actually afraid of some higher power by covering your bases.
Anyway, I' ll tell you this much. There' s a few fundamental beliefs held by all Christians. Jesus is our Lord and savior. Love others as you love yourself. Try to live your life as best as possible.
Damn near everything else is open for interpretation. People will find a way to spin the bible around whatever it is they believe, which is why I find it hard to answer to human authority when it comes to my faith (the primary reason I left the Catholic Church). I decide what I believe, not some crotchety old folks half the world away, slowly losing touch with reality.
When they came out against Harry Potter and rock music, that was just it!
Jesus, Mohammad, Moses they are all ***ed up.
How so? I can certainly see how you can agree that their followers have flaws, but the men themselves weren' t all that bad. At least Jesus and Moses. I only have sectional understanding of specific bits of Islam, I don' t honestly know much about Muhammad.
When asked about Christianity, Ghandi said " I don' t reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It' s just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ." and that really is true. There are plenty of self proclaimed Christians who are total jerks, and that' s true of every religion; every society for that matter. Sadly, the majority of Christians I meet are either too afraid of repercussion to come out and speak their mind, especially in a situation like this, where I' m surrounded by primarily atheist and agnostic people, or they' re the fire and brimstone type that tell you that you' re a terrible person, and that if you don' t repent now, and buy their three-disk-set, you' ll burn in the fires of hell.
Neither is the right way to go about living your life, as far as I' m concerned. You can' t push faith on people. That' s why it' s called faith. The best thing I can do is to be the good I want to see in others. Leading by example is far more important to me than preaching about various people' s evils.
Take Ghost for example. Fundamental Christians would tell you that he' s a drunk, a godless heathen, and is the lowest of the low.
What they won' t tell you is that he has an amazing ability to debate, and is passionate in what he believes in, despite the fact that what he believes in is... well... nothing. I see a lot of good in him, despite disagreeing with him on damn near everything as far as our life choices go.
I don' t need to die to find virgins.
You would if you lived around here. Dunno what high-class neighborhood you live in.
(I think it was called Caddy Cism or something like that)
Ugh... Catechism... don' t even get me started on Catechism. I could seriously go on for days. That was 10 times worse than any number of days I had to spend in church.
Now I am the furthest thing from religious.
You have any sort of faith, sans-religion, or are you pretty generally apathetic?