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Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 08, 2008 19:37
I' m curious...

I get the impression that there are people who use this forum that have never set foot outside of the country in which they were born in, ...maybe never outside of their hometown

I' m not asking where you' ve been. I don' t want a list of countries you' ve visited. I know there are some well traveled people here... i' m more curious about the people who haven' t seen much of the world in person... who are you and what' s your excuse?

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 08, 2008 20:38
That would be me for sure, I have only been out of the country once to go to Canada. I have gone a few places in the US but it is primarily a lack of funds on my part and that whole thing with me being a minor(so I have to rely on my parents), but I won' t be a minor in a month from next Wednesday.

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 08, 2008 22:13
I suppose I would go under the never been out of country thing. I would love to travel but money, money, money.
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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 08, 2008 22:34
I' ve never been out of the US. The rest of the world can suck my dick... I kid, I kid. I would love to travel but as Silentbomber said, " money, money, money" . That and finding the time. Life is busy the way it is and finding time to actually go to another country and really enjoy it doesn' t fit into my schedule.

I' ve seen probably half of the states in the US though.
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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 00:19
Traveled a lot inside of Canada, but never outside. My excuse has been money, but I should actually have enough saved up by next year to take the family to Disneyland. Kids have been bugging me to go for a couple of years now, so I can' t wait to take them.

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 00:39
Wow, ...not even the people i expected! Now i' m really curious as to how many Kikizo posters have never left their home country...

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 00:56
Ive havent traveled a lot! i wish i could get around more. Denmark is so small its impossible not to leave it at some point, if you get lost on the way to the grocer you might end up in germany or sweden. In anycase, iv been to 6 countries or so.

My girlfriend is dead scared of flying to the point its nearly hysterical, if i cant get her to lighten up i dont know what ill do.

Im dead set on visiting 6 or the 7 continents before i die, i only get one chance to see the world.

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 01:51
I never left Canada yet.

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Even when I have the money and time, I don' t have a good reason to travel. I hate traveling anyways, it' s like moving except you have come go back. I simply cant get enough time to make a trip that' s worth anything. One or even two weeks would do nothing for me. It would save me a lot of trouble to simply flush my money in the toilet.

If I visit another country it will be because I want to live there.

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 02:25
I' ve been about the US and I looked across to Canada. Never left the country cause I' m a broke ass bastard.

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 03:47
To those of you young enough to and can get the money together, travel and see other cultures, it helps you understand why there are certain things going on in the world.

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 03:51
I' m a minor, so travel has been relatively limited on my part. I' ve been out of the states twice, both to Canada, and I live half an hour from the US Canadian border.

My excuse? I' ve got to go through Detroit to get to Windsor!

I' d love to visit Ireland, Russia, Japan, Georgia and Israel some time in my life, and there' s about a 50/50 chance I' ll be going to Germany later next year, with some brief time in France, Switzerland and Austria.

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 04:33
Holy fuc.k!

I' m struggling to comprehend this.

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 04:54
Struggling to comprehend what? We be po' folk!

Nitro, you said you had a job at some point with a travel agency, right? Where do you want to go that you haven' t already? Because you' ve definitely done your fair share of globetrotting.

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 05:08
Nitro, you have to understand for most people in the US it' s a pretty long trip to leave the country based on where you live. It' s not like Europe where every few hours you can end up in a different country. I mean shit, when I drive from Florida to Minnesota to see the family it takes 28 hours straight through without sleeping.

You also have to look at the countries that are next to us. Canada is pretty much the same as Minnesota from what I' ve gathered, going up a couple extra hundred miles doesn' t change much other than getting a little colder. Then Mexico is to the south of us... and who the hell wants to go there? Water is pretty much all I drink so I won' t take my chances, lol.

Another thing is with the US we have so many different environments across our country. We' ve got tropics, grasslands, mountains, deserts, forests... you name it. Then you' ve also got so many different cultures spread across the country. Huge cities, small towns, numerous attractions in each state. There' s so much here most people that live in the country will only see a fraction of it much less go abroad to see more.

I' d personally love to to Egypt and see the pyramids and hope to one day... or go to Italy for the food alone. At the same time I still want to see the Grand Canyon here, check out Mount Rushmore, climb the Rockies, explore New York, and so many others. Time and money make all of this difficult.

Hell, the only reason I' m going to California for GDC this month is thanks to my current employer paying for it.
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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 05:49
I, too, am not very well traveled. I lived IN Detroit, so unlike Eddie I had no problem going through the tunnel to visit our neighbors to the south (yes, Windsor is SOUTH of Detroit! Go figure.)

Since I' ve been in California I' ve been to Mexico a couple of times.

My lack of travel was because we were poor. I mean POOR! My mom did what she could, though, and we used to go to the Cedar Point amusement park in Ohio every year. She also took us to Niagara Falls when we were little, and that was cool.

It' s ON now, though! I' m already planning some stuff, so I' ll be seeing some other countries soon.

Rampage, where are you gonna be in California?

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 06:01
I used to live in cali as a kid...never once been to disney land or world whatever it is thats there. But we drove by it plenty of times. Hey its better then nothing!

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 06:12


ORIGINAL: Eddie_the_Hated

Struggling to comprehend what? We be po' folk!

Nitro, you said you had a job at some point with a travel agency, right? Where do you want to go that you haven' t already? Because you' ve definitely done your fair share of globetrotting.


I worked in both France and Spain as a kayaking instructor for 18 months, for an activity holiday company called PGL.

I' ve been to 54 countries (not counting the UK which includes England, Wales and Scotland), half of which i' ve been to more than once and half of those more than 3 times. Before i go into where i want to go, i' ll just list where i' ve been so as to put everything into context.

I' ve been to:

Spain (lived/worked)
France (lived/worked)
Germany
Norway
Poland
Romania
Hungary
Finland
Belgium
Denmark
Czech Republic
Bulgaria
Austria
Switzerland
Malta
Italy
Cyprus
Portugal
Greece
Netherlands
Dominican Republic
Seychelles
Mauritius
Barbados
Jamaica
Maldives
Laos
Mexico
United States of America
Canada
Cuba
Australia
Russia
Serbia
Kuwait
Lebanon
Turkey
Israel
Egypt
The Bahamas
Bahrain
United Arab Emirates
Saudi Arabia
Morocco
Thailand
Japan
China
Pakistan
Bangladesh
India
Kenya
Ghana
Uganda
South Africa

Now, ...some of them weren' t visits to just that country... i' ve done multiple countries in some trips. I did Egypt and Saudi Arabia in the same trip, Uganda and Kenya in the same trip, Serbia - Romania and Hungary in the same trip etc...

But then if you look at somewhere like Spain... i' ve been to Madrid, Barcelona, Valencia, Alicante, Benidorm, Malaga, Ibiza, Majorca, Minorca etc...

Travel is a big thing for me, and i think it' s important to see and experience other cultures first-hand. I was privately educated until the age of 14 when i decided i wanted to move to a public highschool to be with some of my friends and throughtout my entire school life i don' t think i passed on a trip. Our schools, both private and public tend to go on annual school holidays. Most go to places like Prague (say for the kids studying history), and others go to Switzerland, Italy or Finland on skiing trips.

I have family in Israel and Spain, an ex-girlfriends who came from Kosovo and South Africa, friends who live in France, Italy, Spain, Bahrain, The United Arab Emirates, Bulgaria, Canada, Greece and several African countries. Friends who have come from other countries to live in the UK who i' ve traveled with when they' ve gone home for whatever. So never having been anywhere apart from where you were born is an alien concept for me.

I know a couple of you guys are minors... but i find it perplexing that your parents never took you on holiday as children. I know a lot of relatively poor people here but most of them have been abroad... usually to popular European tourist destinations like Spain, Greece, Portugal etc... I don' t think i know anybody who has never been out of the country

As for where i' d like to go, or rather where i plan to get to at some point, ...well:

Saint Lucia
Peru
Libya
Mali
South Korea
Guatemala
Fiji
Mongolia
Ecuador
Colombia
Chile
Belarus
Croatia
Brunei
Dominican Republic
Brazil
El Salvador
Cambodia
Argentina

...and most of all... Ukraine and the Congo.

This year i' m back in Greece, Israel and Canada so maybe next year i' ll scratch some of those off my list. I' m still young and although the next couple of years are going to be focused on getting into/settling into Canada... i should be able to fit stuff in.

And before anybody mentions money... when i was born my parents lived in a caravan. I kid you not. Granted that i' ve been more fortunate than most... but c' mon... you' ve never been to a single foreign country?

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 06:14

...and most of all... Ukraine


Ive dated a Ukrainian does that count?

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 07:02


ORIGINAL: Mass X


...and most of all... Ukraine


Ive dated a Ukrainian does that count?


Only if you' ve climbed her peaks and explored the cave
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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 07:10


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Rampage, where are you gonna be in California?


San Fran. My hotel is like a 5 minute walk from the convention center that is holding GDC.
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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 07:14
Nitro with all your traveling and you have never been to Ireland??
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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 07:28


ORIGINAL: Silentbomber

Nitro with all your traveling and you have never been to Ireland??


My dad was a detective for years and so obviously couldn' t go, so no, i' ve never been to Ireland.

Would i really want to?

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 07:32

My dad was a detective for years and so obviously couldn' t go, so no, i' ve never been to Ireland.


Huh? What' s the relevance?

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 07:37
Nitro, the ukraine is fantastic, although like many former soviet bloc countries, it is full of corruption, Kharkov (Kharkiv) is very nice.

I think Nitro is referring to the troubles in Ireland and the fact that constabulary weren' t welcome then

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 07:41
Well, I only lived in Spain until I was like one and a half, so I don' t count Europe as a place I' ve been to. I' ve lived all my life in Panama and when I was little, I got to go to Puerto Rico and Florida. Then when I was 12, I went to a boarding school in Kansas during my summer (which is January-March), where I learned my English My family was I guess Middle-to-uppish class back then, so I got to experience that.

Now that my family is not so well anymore, I' ve done all my traveling by myself. I didn' t wanted to stay at home, so I decided to take my chances and asked for a job at the same boarding school I went to as a kid, and they gave me one, so I moved to Kansas, where I paid for my schooling. The job gave me some real nice perks, so I got to see a lot of Kansas, plus between my job and college, I got to travel to Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Colorado and New York. During my vacations, I manage to go to Las Vegas and California, where I am currently living.

At this moment, I am unemployed, and since I am not American, it doesn' t make things easier for me to get a job, specially in California where they have become a little bit more nit-picky due to all the illegal immigrants.

As of this moment, I have about seven months left on my Visa here in the US, so like I was telling Nitro a while back, I' ve begun to look for jobs in Europe, since my passport is European. Or any country for that matter. I am only 22, so I guess that part of me wanting to see the world, even if means doing odd-jobs comes from my adventurous spirit. And part of it is because I' ve always wanted better things for myself, even if it means that I' ll have to be away from my family. I am also terrified to go back to Panama. Not in a scared type of way, but I just don' t feel at home there, even when I' ve lived my entire life there. I do want to see the world, and at least visit my home country before my time is up.

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 07:42


ORIGINAL: alijay034

I think Nitro is referring to the troubles in Ireland and the fact that constabulary weren' t welcome then



Yup. The IRA threatened to kidnap or kill British police officers if they were found in Ireland and so they were advised (or rather told) not to go.

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 07:51
I had issues when I went to the Ukraine, due to my service record.

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 08:00

Yup. The IRA threatened to kidnap or kill British police officers if they were found in Ireland and so they were advised (or rather told) not to go.


Crazy. That' s the kind of bullshit I don' t have to worry about.

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 08:10


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ORIGINAL: Mass X


...and most of all... Ukraine


Ive dated a Ukrainian does that count?


Only if you' ve climbed her peaks and explored the cave



Woohoo! I been to the Ukraine!

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 10:00

I know a couple of you guys are minors... but i find it perplexing that your parents never took you on holiday as children. I know a lot of relatively poor people here but most of them have been abroad... usually to popular European tourist destinations like Spain, Greece, Portugal etc... I don' t think i know anybody who has never been out of the country

As mentioned earlier here, it' s not like I live in Europe where it' s a few hour' s drive to the next country. I just never really grew up with it as a part of my lifestyle.

I' d love to make the rounds in a few years when I' m not a legal-dependent. Just save up a bit of money, and make a round trip of Europe. Hit the UK, at least Wales and Ireland, then hop over into France and Germany. I never cared for Spain or Portugal much, I can' t say I' d be too interested in hitting them. The Ukraine would be interesting, but I hear Georgia' s positively gorgeous.

Nitro, more questions for you. How do you get by the language barrier when you' re in all these countries? Lots of pointing and mumbling, and waving of Euros?

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 11:42
I have been to Nepal and sri lanka .

I will mostly move to the US next year for my graduate studies .

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 12:23


ORIGINAL: 2pac

I have been to Nepal and sri lanka .

I will mostly move to the US next year for my graduate studies .


Where do you live, 2pac? And what school are you going to?

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 14:53

ORIGINAL: Chee Saw



ORIGINAL: 2pac

I have been to Nepal and sri lanka .

I will mostly move to the US next year for my graduate studies .


Where do you live, 2pac? And what school are you going to?


I live in India . I have applied to USC(Intelligent robotics) and University of Georgia(MS in AI) .
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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 09, 2008 15:34
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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 10, 2008 03:14

As mentioned earlier here, it' s not like I live in Europe where it' s a few hour' s drive to the next country.


Wait a second, man, don' t you live in Michigan or something? It is a few hour' s drive to the next country!

Canada is the only other country I' ve visited, in Vancouver BC. I got my Passport last year though, one of the last ones before they put the radio tracking chips in them! I had plans to tour Europe, a music tour that is, but the other artist who was to travel with me didn' t get it together. I would still like to do that within the next couple of years.

Within the U.S. I' ve been to almost all the contiguous states, except in the Northeast. NYC is the farthest Northeast I' ve ventured yet.

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 12, 2008 01:28

I think Nitro is referring to the troubles in Ireland and the fact that constabulary weren' t welcome then


My dad was a detective for years and so obviously couldn' t go, so no, i' ve never been to Ireland.


Thankfully the Troubles are now over. Now I could go on and on about the Troubles but I won' t. Alot of you know all about it anyway. Most tourists that come to Ireland are from Britain and the US.



Would i really want to?


If someone was coming to Ireland I would recommend the west of the country, fantastic scenery and then there is Galway city, friendly people, great nightlife, just ask Silent! Dublin is good craic as well but pretty expensive.



I have been to the US, Canada and England. Haven' t been out of the country now in over 4 years though, money, money, money....



I' d love to visit Ireland


You will feel right at home here Eddie! 10% of our population is ginger!
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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 12, 2008 03:16


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You will feel right at home here Eddie! 10% of our population is ginger!


Holy hell! Count me out then, ...i might catch it!

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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 12, 2008 07:29
You dont catch it.

It catchs you.
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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 14, 2008 08:08


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Nitro, more questions for you. How do you get by the language barrier when you' re in all these countries? Lots of pointing and mumbling, and waving of Euros?


Depends where really.

The more popular European tourist destinations like Cyprus, Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal etc... are never a problem because the majority of people who live there understand English. It' s only when you venture out into the countryside that things can get tricky if you don' t know the language.

When i was working in France we would go into one of a couple of neighbouring towns at night and ordering drinks and stuff in French becomes second nature, ...but while i can manage basic conversations, getting to know the girls and keep them interested was a nightmare, and some people who you know understand you just pretend not to because they thing you should speak their language in their country (and rightly so).

I' ve never really had any problems with the language barrier in Western Europe, but Eastern Europe can be a pain. Again, the more touristy the place the greater the concentration of people who speak English, and again, ordering food and drinks becomes second nature after a while... but try explaining to a very offended pimp that you' re not interested in his skanky wares when you' re in a foreign country!

China wasn' t a problem because we had a translator and in countries like Africa and Russia i was traveling with friends who have lived there so there have never been any real problems there.

Plus, you can always buy a phrase book. They' ll come in handly in most places (well, except for the places where you need to inject copius amount of phlem into your words )

If somebody was planning on traveling, i' d recommend:

Barcelona in Spain (fantastic beaches, cathedrals, food and shops)

Palermo in Italy (where you can get some of the best dress shirts, shoes and suits in the world)

The Czech Republic in general.

Mauritius (godly beaches)

Moscow and St Petersburg in Russia (the most beautiful girls and most insane clubs - some holding up to 4000 people and many taying open from 11am - 6am)




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RE: Nowhere? Somewhere? Everywhere? - Feb 15, 2008 00:19

Wait a second, man, don' t you live in Michigan or something? It is a few hour' s drive to the next country!

A handful of minutes actually. I don' t consider going to Canada vacationing. It' s not different enough from the states for me to bother venturing to, at least not until you head further northwest.

but try explaining to a very offended pimp that you' re not interested in his skanky wares when you' re in a foreign country!



You will feel right at home here Eddie! 10% of our population is ginger!

Yeah, that' s comforting. If I ever were to go, I' d hit Dublin, or a city similar for a day, & then spend the rest in the countryside. Large cities in general have too much in common around the world for me to warrant going to them for any long period of time. I' d far rather take off the beaten path and go somewhere not surrounded by obese fanny-packed folks and their guided tours.[:' (]
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