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The Argument Thread. - Nov 21, 2007 05:28
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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:20
Virtua, your way of rating is totally flawed , therefore that final score is absolutly not accurate regardless of your judgement.

i wish magazines and website could follow a unique model of rating leaving the differences only for opinions between reviewers, we will see then some coherence between reviews internally within the same website or externally.

My suggestion is this:

in " almost" all genres, variable should be:

Gameplay
Graphics
Sound effect/voice acting
Control
Music
Story
Innovation
Animation
Multiplayer

i think that' s it, remind me if i forgot something, now here is the thing you are missing virtua:

you should give each variable a weight, and that weight differs from genre to genre, for exemple in RPG story should have much more weight than in FPS, in sport game music is not important ans so on you got it ..

so after summing up the total , you divide it over the sum of all weights to get the final score. Of course it' s a little time consuming but this might help us a lot to make a sound judgement and reflection of our perception of the game. Reviewers probably should do that instead of just approximating scores, ultimately you will end up with a lot of contradictions, because when the reviewers put their final score, they forget many aspects not to mention the strong influence of other review and hype.

Again this is time consuming but i think it' s better than what you suggested, otherwise we will be much better off with just approximations like what we always do. i' ll try Call of duty 4 following both models , if i have to approximate : i' ll give it a 9.5/10

following my model: (weights between 1-5), actualy the challenge here is to choose the right weights for each genre.

Gameplay 9.5 x 4 = 47.5
Graphics 9.5 x 5 = 47.5
Sound effect/voice acting 10 x 3 = 30
Control 9.5 x 5 = 47.5
Music 9.5 x 3 = 28.5
Story 8 x 2 = 16
Innovation 7 x 3 = 21
Animation 9.5 x 4 = 38
Multiplayer 9.5 x 5 = 47.5


Total : 9.4/10 ==> this will have a meaningful score if you review another SHOOTER following the same model with the exact same weights .

if it' s too long for you to read , screw you [:' (]
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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:29
Lame.

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:31

Lame.


typical.
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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:35
Yeah well, at least i' m not an easily led automaton who takes the opinions of fukkwit games journalists seriously. Nor am i stealthy in my trolling like the fukktard up top. I' m just me, and i' m better than you.

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:41
Halo3- 94/100

CoD4 92/100

Bioshock 90/100

FF12 - 91/100

Assassins creed 88/100

Crysis 87/100

I probably missed tons of games,but I only remember those truth to be told.

Anyway games I yet have played but will this week is ...

Mass effect+Ace combat 6,ME might be GoTY for me.
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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:42


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Yeah well, at least i' m not an easily led automaton who takes the opinions of fukkwit games journalists seriously. Nor am i stealthy in my trolling like the fukktard up top. I' m just me, and i' m better than you.


You did totally not just say that! ...aren' t you naughty!

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:43


ORIGINAL: Nitro

You did totally not just say that! ...aren' t you naughty!


Get out of my head you pussy. Make room for jello!

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:44


ORIGINAL: Majik

Get out of my head you pussy. Make room for jello!


STFU or i' ll give you teh AIDS!!!

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:45


ORIGINAL: Nitro

STFU or i' ll give you teh AIDS!!!


I' ll just give ur mum!

Are we playing this game?

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:46


ORIGINAL: Majik

Are we playing this game?


No, it' s elitist, communist, homosexual bullshit. We ain' t playing.

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:46


ORIGINAL: Nitro

No, it' s elitist, communist, homosexual bullshit. We ain' t playing.


Elitist?

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:48


ORIGINAL: Majik



ORIGINAL: Nitro

No, it' s elitist, communist, homosexual bullshit. We ain' t playing.


Elitist?


Yeah.

Y' know, like " Gears sucks donkey balls on 360. I don' t see what all the fuss is about" ...then when the PC version releases... " This game kicks ass, and it' s soooooooo much better with superior controls, graphics and uh, ...bugs..."

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:48
all i see in you is a spoiled teen that seriously needs to grow up, i seriously thaught you grew up from last year but you seem to keep the old you sometimes. i already explained my point of view about reviews (ironically you refer to them when you wish), i don' t need your approval, but you seem to talk hyperboles just to make a point and that' s lame... i knew you will be the first one to post since i gave you an opportunity to flame and man you love that don' t you, you are sooo predictable, if something smart being said with no way to flame, you just keep your mouth shut. ok GROW THE FUCK UP.
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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:48
And communist?

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:49


ORIGINAL: Majik

And communist?


Nintendo = Soviet Union

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:49

Yeah.

Y' know, like " Gears sucks donkey balls on 360. I don' t see what all the fuss is about" ...then when the PC version releases... " This game kicks ass, and it' s soooooooo much better with superior controls, graphics and uh, ...bugs..."


hahahahahaha

I know who you refer too,yes but he is as he is.
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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:50
Ok, and homosexual?

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:51
Aba eat sand,ofc he gets cranky.
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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:51


ORIGINAL: Majik

Ok, and homosexual?


If he' d ever had a woman he would be such a pussy. He must like cock.

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:52
rofl.
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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:55
FFS.. what the hell has happened :(



Quez, not perecentage dude, how am i supposd to break down into Graphics, Gameplay, Depth..

I need a break down of them four factors.


Ashbourne thanks for the Suggestion (i questioned that myself) but we need them to be broken down the way i explained for reasons.

Got 86 gamers Scores, in need of another another 14 please?

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:57


ORIGINAL: Abasoufiane

all i see in you is a spoiled teen that seriously needs to grow up, i seriously thaught you grew up from last year but you seem to keep the old you sometimes. i already explained my point of view about reviews (ironically you refer to them when you wish), i don' t need your approval, but you seem to talk hyperboles just to make a point and that' s lame... i knew you will be the first one to post since i gave you an opportunity to flame and man you love that don' t you, you are sooo predictable, if something smart being said with no way to flame, you just keep your mouth shut. ok GROW THE *** UP.


Teen?

Spoiled? Nah, i own my flat, and i own a small house that i rent out. I inherited the money yes, but i' ve also been living on my own since i was 16. I' ve never been out of work, i have great job that i' m damn good at. Nobody' s spoiled me since i was a teenager.

I don' t " flame" the sensible, reasonable and smart posters. Just the idiots. And when i do, and people complain, nothing ever happens, ...so you' ll just have to live with it.

I suggest [if you have roads in your country] you go play in traffic

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 06:59


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FFS.. what the hell has happened :(



Rating games by numbers is a crime, at least to me.

Truth is, i dont understand quite how to rate them like you asking.

How do you rate depth?

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:06

Rating games by numbers is a crime, at least to me.

Truth is, i dont understand quite how to rate them like you asking.

How do you rate depth?



Sorry, renamed the thread, it has totally confused me, I take Majik is not Nitro?

Anyway.. Depth is measured by the re-playablity factor and length of the game. IE a deep gameplay system of say VF5 would score more in depth than a more shallow one in Mortal Kombat. Online play and how good that is will increase the score even futher.

Anyway.. Nevermind.
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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:09

Teen?


you behave like those high school guys that are so cliché in movies nowadays, don' t you know ?


I don' t " flame" the sensible, reasonable and smart posters. Just the idiots. And when i do, and people complain, nothing ever happens,


idiots have a wrong perception of intelligence.
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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:13


ORIGINAL: Abasoufiane


Teen?


you behave like those high school guys that are so cliché in movies nowadays, don' t you know ?




Did you just liken him to Stifler?




ORIGINAL: Abasoufiane


I don' t " flame" the sensible, reasonable and smart posters. Just the idiots. And when i do, and people complain, nothing ever happens,


idiots have a wrong perception of intelligence.


No, it' s used to describe a person with mental deficiencies.

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:19
Im confused!

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:19

No, it' s used to describe a person with mental deficiencies.


because i tried to describe idiots there ... thanks. anyway keep playing with yourself
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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:21


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No, it' s used to describe a person with mental deficiencies.


because i tried to describe idiots there ... thanks. anyway keep playing with yourself


Is that some sort of peculiar Tusken Raider logic?

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:26

Is that some sort of peculiar Tusken Raider logic?


i' m sorry i didn' t understand what you' re saying, oooh you mean " i speak bullshit you don' t understand" ? i said go and keep playing with yourself it seems you enjoy it a lot and think it' s funny.
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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:29


ORIGINAL: Abasoufiane


Is that some sort of peculiar Tusken Raider logic?


i' m sorry i didn' t understand what you' re saying, oooh you mean " i speak bullshit you don' t understand" ? i said go and keep playing with yourself it seems you enjoy it a lot and think it' s funny.


You certainly speak bullshit. I think you need a proper education. Why don' t i import you and put you through college or something!?

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:37
Hey Nitro Majik' s a fag thank god i' m with you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Change is inevitable. Except from a vending machine.

Viva La Revolution! erm, I mean Viva La Wii!

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:40


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Hey Nitro Majik' s a fag thank god i' m with you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Cheating bitch.

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:41
the sentence with bullshit was about you

right now, i own you in your own damn language, your native one not the bullshit, as for this latter i won' t even try.
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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:46


ORIGINAL: Abasoufiane

the sentence with bullshit was about you

right now, i own you in your own damn language, your native one not the bullshit


If only it made sense in the language it was written

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:47

Hey Nitro Majik' s a fag thank god i' m with you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


I thought you loved me Silent!! Last night was AMAZING!!! You bastard! How could you do this to me.

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:52


ORIGINAL: Silentbomber

Hey Nitro Majik' s a fag thank god i' m with you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



ORIGINAL: Majik

Cheating bitch.



ORIGINAL: Duffman

I thought you loved me Silent!! Last night was AMAZING!!! You bastard! How could you do this to me.


Silent you bloody manwhore!



Oh hey Duff! Where have you been recently?

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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 07:56

If only it made sense in the language it was written


Error 543 = insufficient neurons.
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RE: Your Help Needed: Rate the best games of 2007 - Nov 21, 2007 08:00


ORIGINAL: Abasoufiane


If only it made sense in the language it was written


Error 543 = insufficient neurons.



What am i, Paris Hilton over here?

Probably, but i' d like to know if anybody else " gets" it. Maybe someboy from the real world could explain what i' m missing?


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