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Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 16:53
Expected?

I hadn' t really given it much thought. It wont be a problem for me but i' m sure some will complain. The size is being put down to HD video, both pre-recorded inengine (like Resistance & Heavenly Sword) and CG cutscenes. The cutscenes in Gears of War are HD too, but they' re shockingly unstable because they' re realtime and not pre-recorded. I guess a case could be made for Blu-Ray afterall.

I wonder whether MGS4 will be on a 50Gb disc due to the sheer amount of cutscenes!?

Anyhoo...

LINK

New trailer from TGS

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 17:18
Its usually when games get to 4 discs that people shift paradigms. I dont think theres been anything on 5 discs have there?

Arent MGS cutscenes usually realtime as well?

I liked the pretty HD videos of Blue Dragon though, I think they tend to be much more cinematic and well presented than realtime cutscenes.

Overall I prefer interactive cutscenes eg Halflife, but they' re obviously much more difficult to direct in terms of timing of story, character, music, presentation etc.

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 18:23
360 sucks, should' ve had HD-DVD or Blu-ray. Told you it wasn' t future proof. Soon developers will abandone the console because they simply can' t make the grand games they have in their minds.
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 18:57
You' re retarded ginj,this has to do withe 1080p CGI.

That takes tons of GB,has nothing to do with normal real time cutscenes.

ME is done and will land on 1 DVD9 and has far better graphic then LO,and skipped all CGI,and I assume the ME will land in 720p too.
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 18:59
So you' re saying that limiting the developer' s freedom to use CGI if they want to is a good thing? HAHA! You fool!
I for one am glad that the developers can freely choose what and how to make their games on the PS3.
I bet Lost Odyssey had to be a little shorter and have less amazing cut-scenes just because the 360 is a stupid piece of crap.

Mass Effect environments look like crap. That' s because they had to limit themselves to DVD. PS3 games will own, simply because of Blu-ray. F***ing retards who don' t realise that.
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 19:04
They' re not limited you idiot,plenty of other games that use CGI,and btw look at games like ME,how are they gonna keep you in-game and even in charge of the dialogs nonstop if they put in CGI ?
Also voices take plenty of GB of space,so the japanese support probably added 5-10 gb.
Anyway you talk about limited,look at heavenly sword,you can finisht it on 4-5 hours and it were like 16 gb big.

good use of the space there.


And yes ME looks like crap,good there Ginjoru.

Now go and play your wii.
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 19:06
I don' t own a f***ing Wii! PS3 is where it' s at!
I will say no more, I' ll just let the superior PS3 games talk for themselves.
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 19:27

I don' t own a f***ing Wii! PS3 is where it' s at!
I will say no more, I' ll just let the superior PS3 games talk for themselves.


Please post all those great released PS3 titles? ohhh right, all of them are mediocre crap!

Your starting to annoy me, i think ill get Quez to help me, we will come to visit you and kick a pineapple up your ass!

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 20:25

I don' t own a f***ing Wii! PS3 is where it' s at!
I will say no more, I' ll just let the superior PS3 games talk for themselves.


now now Ginji , are u trying to be the antiquez, only recently that you started to talk like a fanboy, congratulation...


As for me, damn i hate it to be in 4 discs [:' (]

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 20:26
Whats the problem with 4 disc?

Oh ,thats right you have to dl and burn 4 dvd' s-

for us others its not a problem.
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 20:33

Whats the problem with 4 disc?

Oh ,thats right you have to dl and burn 4 dvd' s-

for us others its not a problem.




you sure have a big mouth.

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 20:38
I take it only a few " get" the new Ginj? Myself included.

Anyway, wow at that trailer, just wow. Super mega long cut scenes for the win.
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 20:40


ORIGINAL: Tiz

I take it only a few " get" the new Ginj? Myself included.




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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 20:45
I heard sakaguchi said the CGI footage can be done in real time but its easier to make it in CGI.
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 20:46
Actually i think most of us get the new Gin, but that somehow doesnt make it funny.

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 20:51
Of course it' s not fun to you because my posts makes sense and shuts you up!
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 20:51
Skrull-Gin...

...anyway, 4 discs isn' t such a big deal. Do you pay more for it? Technically you don' t, and it means the publishers might have to put in a nice big box and yeah, I like that, looks like a DVD boxset, so why not?

Anyway, been wondering, the game is supposed to ship with both English and Japanese audio, so does that add significantly to the file-size or not?

PS: Since we' re getting on it, I agree that the 360 should have just used HD-DVD as a default, instead of an optional drive. It made sense at first, when 360 was just released and the HD era wasn' t fully embraced, but just like how Sony did it with the first Playstation, they should have thought of future-proofing it.

And Quez..


Oh ,thats right you have to dl and burn 4 dvd' s-

for us others its not a problem.


Get it through your horny head that we' re richer than you.

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 22:20


ORIGINAL: Nitro

Expected?

I hadn' t really given it much thought. It wont be a problem for me but i' m sure some will complain. The size is being put down to HD video, both pre-recorded inengine (like Resistance & Heavenly Sword) and CG cutscenes. The cutscenes in Gears of War are HD too, but they' re shockingly unstable because they' re realtime and not pre-recorded. I guess a case could be made for Blu-Ray afterall.

I wonder whether MGS4 will be on a 50Gb disc due to the sheer amount of cutscenes!?

Anyhoo...

LINK

New trailer from TGS


Looks like you and I were right about the game having English lip synching for all languages. That' s something really cool. While Sakaguchi said it' s his appreciation for western support that resulted in this, I' d definitely say it has more to do with what you said about the FaceFX animation technology.

4 DVDs? I really don' t mind. Brings back a little nostalgia from FF8/9. Swapping a DVD every 15 hours? If anyone can' t live with that, then their opinions aren' t worth the time either.

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 23:38


ORIGINAL: UnluckyOne

Looks like you and I were right about the game having English lip synching for all languages. That' s something really cool. While Sakaguchi said it' s his appreciation for western support that resulted in this, I' d definitely say it has more to do with what you said about the FaceFX animation technology.

4 DVDs? I really don' t mind. Brings back a little nostalgia from FF8/9. Swapping a DVD every 15 hours? If anyone can' t live with that, then their opinions aren' t worth the time either.


Yeah, it' s pretty cool stuff, and as long as the voice acting is really convincing it' ll not only add production value but make the game more imersive.

Hopefully they' re working on text file analysis for other languages too. Doesn' t make a difference to me personally but it' s nice to see this kind of technology evolve.

As for the discs, it' s not like there will be any backtracking so it shouldn' t cause anybody any grief.


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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 23:57
Singapore is richer then Sweden?

You' re hilarious Byakko.
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 20, 2007 23:57
SO much for bluray not being needed, lol.

Enjoy swapping discs while ps3s get games twice as big without the inconvenience, morons.

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 00:03


Get it through your horny head that we' re richer than you.


No you aren' t. Sweden is among the top 10 wealthiest countries,

GDP per capita

USA - $44,000
Sweden - $42,000
Singapore - $29,000

More like singapoor

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 00:21
I dunno about Singapore, but Sweden sucks.
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 00:26
Like denmark, sweden has a very big state budget. In denmark the state eats easily 50% of the pay check, more if you earn more (silly as it sounds)

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 00:30
I would move to a different country, but my goverment takes my cash so I cannot.

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 01:05
I like Sweden.
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 02:26

I dunno about Singapore, but Sweden sucks.


You have no saying since your not really Swedish.

But just living here,move.-
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 02:47

GDP per capita


Have you seen the distribution?

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 03:46


ORIGINAL: ginjirou
I' ll just let the superior PS3 games talk for themselves.


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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 03:55

But just living here,move.-


I would, but... se above

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 03:56

Enjoy swapping discs while ps3s get games twice as big without the inconvenience, morons.



It' s a linear game that' s probably a billion hours long. You would have to swap discs anyways before you could finish the game. It' s not like anyone would have to swap discs every fifteen minutes. With an attach rate of 6+ games per 360, the chances are good that you' ll swap discs to play another game far more often than you will to advance in the next part of the game.

Maybe that' s the convinence with the PS3 you' re talking about. It has no games so you don' t have to worry about swapping discs.

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 05:15

I would, but... se above


Have fun in any other country,or the prvious country your reletives had to flee because goats even raped them.
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 06:02
Repeting myself, I would have fun. But see I cannot. ' Cause my goverment steals all my money... legally at that!

Anyways, countries I' ve stayed in for AT LEAST one month:

Denmark
Germany
France
Austria
Spain
Luxemburg
Japan
Barbados
Thailand
Switzerland
Croatia
Bosnia
Greece
Italy

I' m not gonna go in to any specific choices, but I' d say from my little knowledge I hold, I prefer about 82% of the listed countries over Sweden. Also, I' m not mentioning any country that I' ve visited/lived in for lesser than one month, becuase it isn' t really fair to judge a country from the little knowledge I have, even if I' ve stayed longer.

So back to Sweden. I' m all for no wars, free health care, and repairing the roads.

But still, I cannot see why Sweden has som of the worst roads I' ve seen in Europe, and the standard of our healthcare, although free, is really REALLY poor. Not comparble with underdeveloped countries, but... seriously is that a comparison one should be proud of?

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 08:44
The US has shitty health care too, oh well.
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 09:38
The U.S. is the richest underdeveloped country in the world.
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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 21, 2007 12:03

But still, I cannot see why Sweden has som of the worst roads I' ve seen in Europe, and the standard of our healthcare, although free, is really REALLY poor. Not comparble with underdeveloped countries, but... seriously is that a comparison one should be proud of?


Sweden has very pretty roads, however that is because of the contrast to what' s outside of the road.. *giggle*
Norway on the other hand, has horrible and terrible road, but fantastic good looking scenery.
When you cross the border from Sweden you' ll have to drop the speed 30 km/h on the highway, since the roads gets so bad.

We' re kind of the richest nation in the world, it dosn' t matter if you' re nation is rich tough.
The richer you are, the less you spend, and since we are the richest nation, we probably spends less money than Somalia and countries like that...

We put all our income from our oil and gas, directly into the stock-market making gazillion of dollars each year, wich keeps growing.
Sooner or later we' ll end up with all the money in the world.. :-)
If we had divided the money amongst our citizens, all Norwegians would be millionaires. :)
When WorldWar III comes along, I' ll go undercover and pretend I have become a traitor and join Germany and Sweden (I assume those are the bad-guys, who invade us), so I can get to spend some of the money when they take over our country (We' ve probably not got any defence, since weapons cost money). :)
I' ll offcourse change side back again, right before the US and UK free us fropm the evil Swedes and Germans. :)

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RE: Lost Odyssey to span 4 DVD' s... - Sep 22, 2007 22:40

ORIGINAL: Dionysius

The U.S. is the richest underdeveloped country in the world.


It' s not so bad unless you' re poor really.

It' s just really expensive, I stayed at the hospital one time for 1 day and they billed my insurance company $16,000 - LOL, they didn' t even do anything, just hooked me up to IV and gave me antibiotics and shots all day. $16,000 for that.

When I was younger I had apendicitis and it was like a 20 minute surgery and my insurance got billed for $35,000 - LOL.

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